Post-Brexit Thread

Originally Posted by techguyone

Probably not, but I don't see why any trade negotiations could not be done and finalised in that period.

That's how i understand the process ,whilst we will still be bound by all EU laws and treaties until we have formally left there is nothing stopping us negotiating treaties to take effect from the day we leave

Originally Posted by Damien

I don't see why we can't make overtures to various nations, I suspect many theoretical possibilities where considered even prior to last Thursday, but it takes a long time to hammer out trade deals. They're messy things.

The bigger problem seems to quite literally be a lack of manpower. Reports last weekend said we don't have enough trade negotiators to deal with the EU yet let alone to go out and strike up deals with other nations. Finally any prospect deals then need input from different government departments/sectors of industry.

Originally Posted by pip08456

Considering that the USA now wants a deal (Though that may be TIPP which is unacceptable) at least talks are starting.

Also NZ have offered their negotiators to help us out apparently. I'll give links when I get home in a couple of hrs.

here ya go

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by martyh

That's how i understand the process ,whilst we will still be bound by all EU laws and treaties until we have formally left there is nothing stopping us negotiating treaties to take effect from the day we leave







here ya go

Yep that's excellent news we're gonna need them I feel.

[ntluser]

Originally Posted by Big Brian

Yep that's excellent news we're gonna need them I feel.

Seems like a very practical solution which may inspire financial markets to have a little more faith in our ability to ride out this crisis.

Hope S&P restore our Triple A rating too.

Originally Posted by Big Brian

Yep that's excellent news we're gonna need them I feel.

Originally Posted by ntluser

Seems like a very practical solution which may inspire financial markets to have a little more faith in our ability to ride out this crisis.

Hope S&P restore our Triple A rating too.

Does kinda illustrate how much Brussels has taken over though doesn't it

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Damien

Doesn't mean we can't have 'exploratory' meetings. Informal chats here and there.

Well that depends on how much the EU wishes to punish us.

[ntluser]

Originally Posted by martyh

Does kinda illustrate how much Brussels has taken over though doesn't it

The EU is a kind of private members club with the 6 founder members as the committee which makes the "house rules" and the other EU leaders are the club members who are required to obey the house rules.

Since the committee operates to the benefit of the founder members it follows that if you don't follow the house rules you will be punished in some way given that the house rules really debar leaders from any independent thinking and action.

Given the dissatisfaction in the EU I often wondered if the UK could in conjunction with others found their own version of the EU but with a better set of house rules.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

No.

Damn! Well we can at least set trade deals up to kick in once we are fully out.

There are plenty of trading options out there and some of them are very willing to establish trade with the UK, as Marty has said this is an opportunity to reinvigorate UK manufacturing again and obtain a more balanced economy. In the past the UK does best when it has to innovate and work for it's rewards and the people of this nation were also at their best under those conditions. It's easy to be pessimistic at times like this even natural but with the right leader believing in this country this could be the start of something very good for the UK we just have to be more confident in ourselves.

Which manufacturing sector(s) should we re-invigorate?

Trade will dictate that as we will tailor to what's needed and what we are capable of.

Competing against low-wage economies in clothing, textiles, electronics, furniture, cars, etc. - not sure what's left.

We're very good at high end stuff - commodities, we can't compete on price.

Originally Posted by Hugh

Competing against low-wage economies in clothing, textiles, electronics, furniture, cars, etc. - not sure what's left.

We're very good at high end stuff - commodities, we can't compete on price.

Well in the UK the lowest paid workers earn less in real terms than low paid workers in the 1860's!!!! Also worth mentioning Britains pensions are on average the worst in Europe.

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If Brexit cause a temporary drop in incomes then turn off Sky/virgin, mobile phones, no more takeaways, no fast food, ect. Maybe Brexit stops us being slaves to consumerism... OMG I'm not who I thought I was,

Brexit has woke me up a bit lol, I was a blind stupid consumer doing what I was told. An lived my life via interest rates...

Imagine we treasure every penny we earn, keep it under the mattress don't "consume". But but but under the mattress you won't get interest!!! Fine I don't want any lol. We have all the money , they just spend hours figuring out how to get it from us.

Don't get me wrong I'm not about to urinate up a bank and throw paint at McDonalds but, what if we start keeping the money we earn? It all fails, it's a giant Ponzi scheme!

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We do t need a New World Order, we don't need a revolution, we don't need a leader, we just need to keep our money. That's how you change things, an a few pints of 1664,

[techguyone]

I think its mostly the 1664 talking

[ntluser]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Which manufacturing sector(s) should we re-invigorate?

Maybe we could look at what manufactured goods we currently import and see which of those we can manufacture ourselves.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by ntluser

Maybe we could look at what manufactured goods we currently import and see which of those we can manufacture ourselves.

As Hugh says its not as simple as many think to build up our manufacturing base again against such fierce competition and lower prices abroad.