Post-Brexit Thread

[Taf]

Degaulle was visionary... so he said "NON!"

[techguyone]

Originally Posted by Damien

We have the border in Calais so they can't come here before we see who they are. If it was in Dover those camps would be here.

Umm still not really getting it. Isn't this what border control is for, so any Tom Dick or Harry doesn't just roll up, last time I checked we were an Island, why exactly would we be obliged to have a camp in Dover?

I must be getting old.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by RBMark

Well you e gone from complete doom, to mild doom, another few days and your hysterics will be almost forgotten eh...

Hysterics. Ya.

http://news.efinancialcareers.com/uk...s-brexit/?_ga=

Jamie Dimon already sent a memo to J.P. Morgan staff in London saying that the US bank, “may need to make changes to our European legal entity structure and the location of some roles.” The consultant suggested this is an understatement: “J.P. Morgan has just let four buildings in Madrid and six buildings in Frankfurt. All the banks have been planning this for weeks. At 7.30am this morning, their contingency plans kicked in.”

[v0id]

Without the European human rights sticking their nose in which we're no longer obliged to listen to, we can just kick illegal immigrants out

and/or stick'em in a prison like facility so they don't 'disappear' until we can send them back

Originally Posted by techguyone

Umm still not really getting it. Isn't this what border control is for, so any Tom Dick or Harry doesn't just roll up, last time I checked we were an Island, why exactly would we be obliged to have a camp in Dover?

I must be getting old.

The border is at Dover, not Calais. The agreements lets us put our border controls on the French side so that nobody is on this island (from Calais anyway) without going though our border control.

It's useful.

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Originally Posted by v0id

Without the European human rights sticking their nose in which we're no longer obliged to listen to, we can just kick illegal immigrants out

and/or stick'em in a prison like facility so they don't 'disappear' until we can send them back

To where? And we still have Human rights.

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by techguyone

Umm still not really getting it. Isn't this what border control is for, so any Tom Dick or Harry doesn't just roll up, last time I checked we were an Island, why exactly would we be obliged to have a camp in Dover?

I must be getting old.

Technically we are not an Island as we are connected by the Chunnel. However, I suspect the agreement is so they can stop them getting on boats and trains from the French side. If they got on the trains they could end up anywhere.

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Originally Posted by v0id

Without the European human rights sticking their nose in which we're no longer obliged to listen to, we can just kick illegal immigrants out

and/or stick'em in a prison like facility so they don't 'disappear' until we can send them back

Um not really, We still have to obey EU regulations till we are out.

[techguyone]

Surely that's down to the operators of the ferries etc, make it a ginormous fine for each one sent through, should stop all that nonsense.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by v0id

Without the European human rights sticking their nose in which we're no longer obliged to listen to, we can just kick illegal immigrants out

and/or stick'em in a prison like facility so they don't 'disappear' until we can send them back

The European Court of Human Rights is nothing to do with EU if I recall correctly and the ECHR can still make judgements that we will adhere to even when we are out of the EU

It is the European Court of Justice that is the EU led one.

Correct. The ECHR is the enforcement arm of the Council of Europe, of which we are still a member, along with a lot of other non-EU countries including, somewhat amusingly, Russia.

The European Court of Justice is the body charged with ensuring EU member states adhere to the treaties and EU law, and has the power to judge a piece of domestic legislation is incompatible with EU law (as the Scottish Government discovered earlier this year, with regards to its alcohol minimum pricing legislation).

Leave the EU and the ECJ has no jurisdiction over you, but leaving the EU does not take you out of reach of the ECHR.

Originally Posted by Pierre

The European Court of Human Rights is nothing to do with EU if I recall correctly and the ECHR can still make judgements that we will adhere to even when we are out of the EU

It is the European Court of Justice that is the EU led one.

You can just hear all those Brexiters going ....but i thought.............ooooh

[Big Brian]

Scotland to seek immediate talks with Brussels to secure their place in the EU. Second referendum for independence on the cards. BBC News

[ntluser]

Whatever happens we need to treat all immigrants fairly and with respect. There may be some immigrants who may have no legal right to be here but that's not an excuse for treating them in a cruel or humiliating way.

We have to remember that there are plenty of legal immigrants who may take offence if one of their fellow nationals is ill-treated.

It also wouldn't send out a very good message about the type of people we are.

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by martyh

You can just hear all those Brexiters going ....but i thought.............ooooh

Not me. I knew the difference

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Originally Posted by ntluser

Whatever happens we need to treat all immigrants fairly and with respect. There may be some immigrants who may have no legal right to be here but that's not an excuse for treating them in a cruel or humiliating way.

We have to remember that there are plenty of legal immigrants who may take offence if one of their fellow nationals is ill-treated.

It also wouldn't send out a very good message about the type of people we are.

I totally agree.

[ntluser]

Originally Posted by Big Brian

Scotland to seek immediate talks with Brussels to secure their place in the EU. Second referendum for independence on the cards. BBC News

Even if Scotland got its independence they would be in the same position as us trying to negotiate trade talks. It could take some time.

Originally Posted by Big Brian

Not me. I knew the difference

I know just a tongue in cheek comment on some of the barmy reasons some people have voted to leave ,not that i'm complaining of course