Post-Brexit Thread

[Gavin78]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ommons-website

Petition urging second EU referendum reaches 1m signatures


I'm just wondering how highly likely this would happen? Can't take it seriously considering the petition wants London independent of the UK and part of the EU lol

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by ntluser

It would be good to leave on good terms if the EU will allow us to.

It might help if the new PM were to announce:-

a) we were still hoping to trade with the EU in some way without tariffs on either side

b) we were not planning to expel existing working, law abiding foreign nationals

c) we were allowing immigration into the UK within limits specified by the UK government

This would demonstrate good will and relieve some of the anxiety felt by foreign nationals here.

I could live with that.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Big Brian

I think parting on good terms is a must to allow us to get good trade deals. Is there a way we can get deals with EU country or does it have to be a bloc deal? I know Germany want trade as usual and there is no way they will put up tariffs.[COLOR="Silver"]

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this is Grimsby car port [we used to be a fishing port] i drive past this every day we have cars in and we have car going out the little dots in the picture are cars that have just come off the eucc KESS and other boats like it it is an enormous amount of trade .

Originally Posted by Gavin78

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ommons-website

Petition urging second EU referendum reaches 1m signatures


I'm just wondering how highly likely this would happen? Can't take it seriously considering the petition wants London independent of the UK and part of the EU lol

It won't happen.

[Big Brian]

Someone needs to reassure the EU Nationals here. That was only one example on the news, how many more are asking it in private?

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[QUOTE=papa smurf;35845476]

Originally Posted by Big Brian

I think parting on good terms is a must to allow us to get good trade deals. Is there a way we can get deals with EU country or does it have to be a bloc deal? I know Germany want trade as usual and there is no way they will put up tariffs.[COLOR="Silver"]

---------- Post added at 11:21 ---------- Previous post was at 11:17 ----------

this is Grimsby car port [we used to be a fishing port] i drive past this every day we have cars in and we have car going out the little dots in the picture are cars that have just come off the eucc KESS and other boats like it it is an enormous amount of trade .

Indeed it is and there is no reason why it can't continue IMHO. It's up to those negotiators to thrash it out.

Originally Posted by Big Brian

Incidentally, I hear talk of people asking reporters when they have to leave. They don't have to leave, this is where the confusion is. On the news a Poll asked that question live to a reporter. She asked this because she didn't have a British Passport.
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I think there is some convention that allows EU citizens to stay if they've been here 5/10 years it's just not very clear or well advertised. Other than that though we don't actually know, for sure, what their status is. It's just very unlikely they'll be made to leave because it would be far too costly, disruptive and unworkable to make them leave.

Some voters though seem to think that the immigration that has already happened would be reversed if we left.

Both campaigns are to blame for this perception though. Remain wanted to terrify people that there would be deportations and Leave didn't want to alienate voters who are voting because of immigration, especially in there area, they both made lip-service to the notion they would stay. Especially the Tory Leavers (Gove, Hannan and Johnson) but not especially loudly.

They'll be fine.

The EU states Britain must URGENTLY trigger article 50! Let it begin

http://news.sky.com/story/1717427/uk...rgently-france

Originally Posted by Big Brian

Someone needs to reassure the EU Nationals here. That was only one example on the news, how many more are asking it in private?[COLOR="Silver"]
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To be honest if they really think they will all be kicked out then they have been fed some serious mis-information or are just plain thick

Originally Posted by RBMark

The EU states Britain must URGENTLY trigger article 50! Let it begin

http://news.sky.com/story/1717427/uk...rgently-france

The EU States are waking up and discovering when they drafted Article 50 they made no provision for the remaining states to force the start of negotiations. Only the British government can invoke Art50 and it is annoying the rest of them like hell.

Originally Posted by Chris

The EU States are waking up and discovering when they drafted Article 50 they made no provision for the remaining states to force the start of negotiations. Only the British government can invoke Art50 and it is annoying the rest of them like hell.

Good innit

[ntluser]

Originally Posted by Gavin78

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ommons-website

Petition urging second EU referendum reaches 1m signatures


I'm just wondering how highly likely this would happen? Can't take it seriously considering the petition wants London independent of the UK and part of the EU lol

May be we need to set up a counter petition requesting that we don't have a second referendum.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Gavin78

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ommons-website

Petition urging second EU referendum reaches 1m signatures


I'm just wondering how highly likely this would happen? Can't take it seriously considering the petition wants London independent of the UK and part of the EU lol

London has always been independent of the rest of the uk its only just woke up to that fact after the referendum

Stop worrying about internet petitions. They never do anything. Might as well start a poxy hashtag for all it's worth.

[ntluser]

Originally Posted by RBMark

The EU states Britain must URGENTLY trigger article 50! Let it begin

http://news.sky.com/story/1717427/uk...rgently-france

They are trying to panic the government to start before they have sorted out their negotiating strategy in the hope that they will be unprepared or they will make mistakes.

An interim statement by the government should relieve the tension felt.

As far as I know, it's up to us to decide when we want to trigger Article 50 and we'll do so when we are ready.

Given that David Cameron was so out of touch with the views of ordinary people you do wonder what impression of the EU situation he conveyed to the other 27 leaders who seemed to think it was a done deal.

[Gary L]

This petition says..

"We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum."

So you're signing for a new rule to be implemented in the future. you're not signing to 'demand' a second referendum based on the one just taken place. just any future ones.

it's really badly worded.