Cameron resigns - Page 4

papa smurf · 24-06-2016, 17:01

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Originally Posted by Damien

Yes I am sure the boomers have young peoples' interests at heart.

grand parents always look after the grand kids , would you like a humbug

**Damien** · 24-06-2016, 17:08

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

grand parents always look after the grand kids , would you like a humbug

I can congratulate people on a victory they deserved, such as Osem, but I will still call out patronising dismissal of the fears and motivations of young people.

24-06-2016, 17:59

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Originally Posted by Damien

I can congratulate people on a victory they deserved, such as Osem, but I will still call out patronising dismissal of the fears and motivations of young people.

It's looking like turnout in the under 35's was poor! So they couldnt even be bothered to vote, so don't cry to many tears for them. Just like the Scots with only 60% turnout, so 40% we can assume didn't care if they stayed or left.

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People who wanted their voices heard got up and voted, those that weren't interested or couldn't be bothered cannot not complain! They had their chance.

Kursk · 24-06-2016, 19:22

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Originally Posted by Osem

I think he's right to go and not immediately. Sadly, due IMHO to the way in which he led the campaign, he's tainted when it comes to taking the process forward and that will be an enduring distraction when it comes to negotiations.

You're right of course. Btw, may I congratulate you on an informed and relentless campaign here on CF. There is much to be done now but we will be masters of our own destiny.

Many Remainers contributed eloquently too meaning the full range of the pros and cons were discussed at length. I'm sure it helped the then undecided.

Well done everyone (and cheer up Damien!)

Hom3r · 24-06-2016, 20:17

Osbourne next please

24-06-2016, 20:21

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

Osbourne next please

He's vowed to make Brexit work ..........god help us

Osem · 24-06-2016, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Damien

I can congratulate people on a victory they deserved, such as Osem, but I will still call out patronising dismissal of the fears and motivations of young people.

I don't feel I've won any victory, like I've said I wish it had never had to come to this and the EU had seen sense.

And likewise us parents will call out the patronising dismissal of our love for our children and concern for their futures. If you're lucky, you'll know what it feels like one day...

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He's vowed to make Brexit work ..........god help us

Will that be after his emergency budget of doom?...

Hom3r · 24-06-2016, 20:33

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Originally Posted by martyh

He's vowed to make Brexit work ..........god help us

What with! The emergency budget?

24-06-2016, 20:36

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Originally Posted by Osem

Will that be after his emergency budget of doom?...

Given he felt so strongly that the UK would fail if we left i don't see how he can remain as chancellor

Osem · 24-06-2016, 20:39

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Originally Posted by martyh

Given he felt so strongly that the UK would fail if we left i don't see how he can remain as chancellor

Nor me. In spite of how he handled the campaign I respect what Cameron did today greatly. Can't say that about the Chancellor.

**Damien** · 24-06-2016, 20:49

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Originally Posted by Osem

And likewise us parents will call out the patronising dismissal of our love for our children and concern for their futures. If you're lucky, you'll know what it feels like one day...

I didn't say that though. I was aiming that at the constant refrain of people saying the young people care about iPhones and games etc but in reality it's a generation which entered the job market in the aftermath of 2008 and know all to well the price you pay for economic instability.

passingbat · 24-06-2016, 21:29

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Originally Posted by Damien

but in reality it's a generation which entered the job market in the aftermath of 2008 and know all to well the price you pay for economic instability.

That's a fair point. Do you think the young people have a sense of how Sovereignty has been systematically eroded bit by bit before we older peoples' very eyes? Or how it has come to light that political union was the aim from the get-go, but never made public? If they hid that, what else could they also be hiding? Once bitten.. etc. Youth and age both have their advantages.

Age often brings wisdom that is just not there as a young person.

Osem · 24-06-2016, 21:32

I think I'd quite like a few more of the advantages of youth right now...

papa smurf · 24-06-2016, 21:41

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Originally Posted by passingbat

That's a fair point. Do you think the young people have a sense of how Sovereignty has been systematically eroded bit by bit before we older peoples' very eyes? Or how it has come to light that political union was the aim from the get-go, but never made public? If they hid that, what else could they also be hiding? Once bitten.. etc. Youth and age both have their advantages.

Age often brings wisdom that is just not there as a young person.

always take experience with you on your journey- it weighs nothing

25-06-2016, 03:39

The young feeling more pessimistic I can understand to a point they have never known a UK without the EU and it's natural I think they attribute more to it then it might deserve. I got quite annoyed by the constant "EU has made Europe safer" as that is very disingenuous to NATO which was the number one reason for the peace in western Europe and a far bigger reason then the EU. For many of us we know there was life before the EU and there can be again and while the next year or so will have it's bumps the future for the UK is now brighter.

The referendum was very divisive and has split the country it's time now to start joining together and getting everyone on board with the path into our new national future. I am getting tired of some remain supporters who are continuing the scare mongering as it failed as a tactic in the referendum and to continue it will just highlight the divide more. Not everyone has to be happy with the result 48% of the country didn't get what it wanted but that is our democratic system and it's time to accept the result and move on.

I do wish this vote would mean the end of Nigel Farage I know he has his fans but for the majority he is off putting and an example of the lower end of the political scale and the triumphant attitude he has is not helping us to progress.