MSN Messenger Hacking?

AndrewJ · 12-12-2004, 13:22

Hiya all, I have a few friends who use a chat room who have had something I don't understand happen to them.

I enclose a document from one of there chat sessions with this person. Who so I believe hacks a persons MSN, gets someone at other end to let them view there webcam, and asks questions then hacks them...and moves on like such.

Wondering if there is any way anyone knows to protect agaisnt this happening, apart from vetting every single personl on your msn list upon sign in?

ikthius · 12-12-2004, 13:26

did your friend actually get the virus?

ik

ikthius · 12-12-2004, 13:29

I don't think a hacker would ever say that they have hacked someone they are talking to, they like to be annonymous, threfore, msn can take this up in their message archives and block the IP address &or account of the person harrasing your friend.

I would tell your freind to send msn a copy and tell them when it happened, see if they will do anything about it.

ik

Seti · 12-12-2004, 14:03

The kids next door had this problem. Someone eventually gleaned password information from her and changed her account details so that she couldn't log onto MSN. They then changed her information and stated she was pregnant and on drugs. That would be "funny" if the person concerned was over 12

It annoyes me when this happens it really does. But as you probably know one of the first things you do on MSN is invite people you know only into chat. You never ever give out personal details to those you don't know, however innocent the information required might be. So as you said the way to stop this happening is to vet people you don't want to talk to.

The upshot was we contacted MSN abuse who at the time were next to useless and asked them to check and block whoever was using this childs account. It took a while but they did take action and we were able to find out who had invaded her account.

I would advice your friend to look at the MSN abuse pages and contact them directly with the log ONLY to start with. they wil then get in contact with you to ask for ip address and other information. Its a long process but worth doing.

SeTi^

AndrewJ · 12-12-2004, 14:17

Thanks everyone I shall post this onto my friend. I only have limited knowledge of what happend, all I know is 4accounts have gone each related to the first which was hacked.

Sadly now with my MSN which I have just made everyone is vetted before I even speak to them as I have enough people hacking mine...

paulyoung666 · 12-12-2004, 14:21

some sick puppies out there

AndrewJ · 12-12-2004, 14:25

it is considering both people in question are ones I know very well, and who are good people who help keep a chatroom clean for familys and children.

Shame that people have nothing better to do other then cause trouble, makes my skin crawl.

**Paul** · 12-12-2004, 15:07

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Originally Posted by AndrewJames

Wondering if there is any way anyone knows to protect agaisnt this happening, apart from vetting every single personl on your msn list upon sign in?

First of all that looks like a wind up, nothing more.

Secondly, you should not have to "vet" everyone on your msn list since you should have known who they were when you added them.

AndrewJ · 12-12-2004, 15:09

I hear ya Paul but I personally know these people ( one who has just registered here or is in process off ) and they genuinly have lost there accounts.

I am not up on every detail was just stating what i know for some nice advice which I have had thanks all

In meantime she will hopefully post in more detail what happened.

Thanks all for speedly and nice replies

ikthius · 12-12-2004, 16:07

If I needed help for my msn thing I would only allow people I know and trust to know such things, but once it is fixed, immediately change everything from password to secret question.

But if I got an msn prob, I just don't use or get rid of it...I hate msn.

but I think it is just a hoax, if I were a hacker I certainly would not tell anyone, and I would not ask for anything.

I have cracked my mates hotmail account, cause he had an easy secret question, but it was my mate and I suggested he change his secret question, he knew I was doing it, cause I was chatting to him at the time.

ik

AndrewJ · 12-12-2004, 16:11

Aye I know its just that not every user is up on the NET, the amount of people I know who have been online with no firewall apart from SP1 Firewall and no anti virus or anti spyware software.

I think there should be a mandatory test before you could buy a pc to make sure you know basics, as some people leave vitial private information on there finances etc on there pc and don't bother setting the pc up to protect the information.

Escapee · 12-12-2004, 16:39

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

some sick puppies out there

I had some MSN hacking problems myself!

I hinted to paul where they were coming from at the time.

AndrewJ · 12-12-2004, 17:05

Anywhere in particular??

I notice though with my MSN and its worrying me now, everytime I click e-mail when I get one it ALWAYS, takes me to a login page to enter my password, I am using a new .co.uk address, and not many know it, and I have it on auto sign in because I am sole user of this laptop.

Escapee · 12-12-2004, 17:17

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Originally Posted by AndrewJames

Anywhere in particular??

I notice though with my MSN and its worrying me now, everytime I click e-mail when I get one it ALWAYS, takes me to a login page to enter my password, I am using a new .co.uk address, and not many know it, and I have it on auto sign in because I am sole user of this laptop.

I could never actually prove it, but there was a strange chain of events leading upto my problem. I suddenly found a number of people wanted to chat with me!

I just refused most of them, and I probably did that to some genuine people unfortunately. The one incident was very bizzare, involving a woman? who chatted to me, and then the second time with the same handle it was apparently a guy who claimed to be her husband! I had a file installed in my start-up folder after that incident. I copied the file to a floppy, and found that if you clicked on the application it would install itself to the start-up folder again. I took it into work for some of the software guys to play around with, one of them collects viruses and he said it was just some amateurish stuff and not to worry about it too much.

The file had a name like one of the popular viruses but the virus checkers didn't recognise it.

AndrewJ · 12-12-2004, 17:38

The more I read into this the more I am tempted to uninstall MSN Messenger and move onto a better system....