VOD : Netflix/Streaming Services

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

I didn't think that it was available yet MM?

Trialists have them but are under NDA.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I would have expected Now TV to have added the extra channels when the children's pack was split off from the entertainment and they added one channel then so I wouldn't expect them to add more on the 29th. I think the reason Now TV can keep the box so cheap is that they keep the competitors off so I can't see Amazon and Netflix joining soon.

I think they'll add SKY Sports Mix and SKY Sports News at the very least. I'm confident new channels are coming as they confirmed more channels are due to be added on the Now TV forum when the kids channels got cut recently

[Mad Max]

They defo need to get this crap 30 day catch up sorted!

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

I didn't think that it was available yet MM?

Sky employees and other testers presumably?

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Originally Posted by Chad

I think they'll add SKY Sports Mix and SKY Sports News at the very least. I'm confident new channels are coming as they confirmed more channels are due to be added on the Now TV forum when the kids channels got cut recently

OK and good point about Sky Sports Mix. But Sky Sports News is on Now TV.

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

They defo need to get this crap 30 day catch up sorted!

A lot of box sets have more than 30 days.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

OK and good point about Sky Sports Mix. But Sky Sports News is on Now TV.

Totally agree about SKY Sports News but as far as I'm aware it's only available on the NOW TV box. I think this will become a standard channel across all devices and platforms.

I remember doing a survey a long time ago about channels on NOW TV. I remember that National Geographic channel was one most would want to see added to the the line-up. Whether this arrives or not is anyone's guess at that stage. I wouldn't be shocked to see it.

Just over 2 weeks until we see this "BIG" announcement. I'm interested to see what they deliver. Could be a real viable alternative to SKY and Virgin Media for those on a tighter budget.

[love Virgin2013]

Where has it been seen that the New Now TV box is out on June 25th?

Im asking as im doing the trial and there are still issues with it so im surprised that date has been talked about.

Of course i cant say anything about the the new box.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Chad

Totally agree about SKY Sports News but as far as I'm aware it's only available on the NOW TV box. I think this will become a standard channel across all devices and platforms.

I remember doing a survey a long time ago about channels on NOW TV. I remember that National Geographic channel was one most would want to see added to the the line-up. Whether this arrives or not is anyone's guess at that stage. I wouldn't be shocked to see it.

Just over 2 weeks until we see this "BIG" announcement. I'm interested to see what they deliver. Could be a real viable alternative to SKY and Virgin Media for those on a tighter budget.

And there was me thinking you could predict the future old boy.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I would have expected Now TV to have added the extra channels when the children's pack was split off from the entertainment and they added one channel then so I wouldn't expect them to add more on the 29th. I think the reason Now TV can keep the box so cheap is that they keep the competitors off so I can't see Amazon and Netflix joining soon.

I would have thought that adding Netflix and Amazon to the Now TV box would have made it more attractive, leading to more sales. That's certainly why I chose a Roku over the other available options.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by love Virgin2013

Where has it been seen that the New Now TV box is out on June 25th?

Im asking as im doing the trial and there are still issues with it so im surprised that date has been talked about.

Of course i cant say anything about the the new box.

It's actually being unveiled on the 29th June, as to when it goes on public sale is another matter, but i'd assume it would be on sale fairly soon after being unveiled.


https://www.uswitch.com/tv/news/2016..._on_june_29th/

[muppetman11]

That guy is very optimistic in your link MM , I think he could very well be disappointed.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

That guy is very optimistic in your link MM , I think he could very well be disappointed.

It seems to suggest that he/they have an invite on 29th June MM, if that's the case then surely the date would be correct?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I would have thought that adding Netflix and Amazon to the Now TV box would have made it more attractive, leading to more sales. That's certainly why I chose a Roku over the other available options.

The Roku and Now TV boxes have entirely different business models:
Roku - cost of box covered by purchase price plus marginal revenue from apps. Cheapest Roku box on website £70.
Now TV - cost of box subsidised by sale of content. Cost of box on website £15 but when bundled with content, it means that it's effectively given away. Works on the razor principle - give away the razor and make money from the sales of the blades.

Adding Netflix and Amazon would make the Now TV box more attractive and it would sell more. Each Now TV box makes a loss (remember the difference in price between a Now TV box and a Roku is £55 (£70-£15) and having Netflix and Amazon Prime on would reduce the chances of purchasers subscribing to Now TV. So Sky would be faced with a choice of funding more box sales with less chance of recouping its box subsidies or charging more per box which would encroach upon Roku.

The current situation seems to me the best of both worlds - if you want multiple services, pay more and get Roku. If you just want a cheap box for Now TV (plus the PSB catch-up services) then take a subsidised box.

As the saying goes, sales are vanity and profits are sanity.

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Originally Posted by Chad

Totally agree about SKY Sports News but as far as I'm aware it's only available on the NOW TV box. I think this will become a standard channel across all devices and platforms.

It's available on all devices (except YouView) when you subscribe to Sky Sports. Now TV just witholds it to promote its own box.

Originally Posted by Chad

I remember doing a survey a long time ago about channels on NOW TV. I remember that National Geographic channel was one most would want to see added to the the line-up. Whether this arrives or not is anyone's guess at that stage. I wouldn't be shocked to see it.

They could devise a factual pack but that would suggest taking Discovery and National Geographic Wild out of the Entertainment pack. Maybe add some more channels into the Entertainment pack and charge more for it.

Originally Posted by Chad

Just over 2 weeks until we see this "BIG" announcement. I'm interested to see what they deliver. Could be a real viable alternative to SKY and Virgin Media for those on a tighter budget.

Will be interesting to see what they do. At one stage Now TV was bundled with broadband so they may try a broadband offer aimed at the TalkTalk/Plusnet market. Certainly, a higher tier pack with 1080/4K picture quality is likely. Sky obviously knows it must avoid cannibalising its satellite base too much. Interestingly, uSwitch is convinced the new box will be a PVR. Maybe more than one box? https://www.uswitch.com/tv/news/2016...s_now_just_20/

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

It seems to suggest that he/they have an invite on 29th June MM, if that's the case then surely the date would be correct?

I'm guessing it's the details that MM is speculating on. Not sure if the hard drive bit is correct from that web link. I have no actual knowledge though.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by passingbat

I'm guessing it's the details that MM is speculating on. Not sure if the hard drive bit is correct from that web link. I have no actual knowledge though.

That's my exact point , can you honestly believe anyone would think the box will have a HDD ?

A service that can be had for around a fiver is going to want to keep the box costs as cheap as possible.

[love Virgin2013]

The new Now TV box will not go on sale till at least the school summer holidays and if anyone thinks it will have a PVR then they will be wrong.