[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

I see shares in Tin Foil suppliers and sellers are rising...

[Taf]

Originally Posted by Damien

And it's still down for you? Something is really wrong here. I can't think of what would apply to both of you if it isn't the ISP.

He finally got onto the site and almost finished the process first time around. All sorted on the second try. He said it kept on stalling and page changes were very slow.

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by Osem

Odd that it's taken her so long to come to that conclusion and that it's apparently the only factor in her choice.

She might disagree with the figure quoted and/or the tactic(s) being used but does any of that alter the fundamental argument for staying or leaving? Evidently not for her...

She was probably feart for her job in the Tory Party more like. Yes it's a strange reason to vote remain I must admit. You either believe in the EU and all it's faults or you don't.

Originally Posted by Hugh

I see shares in Tin Foil suppliers and sellers are rising...

Give it up Hugh. They're onto us. I knew leaving all those clues around was a bad idea.

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by Taf

He finally got onto the site and almost finished the process first time around. All sorted on the second try. He said it kept on stalling and page changes were very slow.

Well it would. There must be thousands trying in case it crashes again.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Damien

This would work better had a whole load of them not be kicked off the register due to the change in how registering works.

Voting is not a right that should be earned. It's a fundamental right in a democracy and the barriers to access should be as low as possible. I agree with TheDaddy that registration should be automatic, although not just for under-40s but everyone. I am not entirely sure why that isn't the case but it might be because people move around in a way the government can't check? Not sure.

Besides a deadline is the deadline but if you set it at for 11:59pm then that is when it should end. Not 10pm. Yes it's irresponsible to leave it so late but that laziness should not be punished by disenfranchisement and the fundamental fact here is that they were not late, they attempted to register ahead of the deadline.

The only sympathy I have with Leave's argument on this is that two days is a bit much for 2 hours of missed registration.

Can't see how any fair minded people from either side can object to allowing more people to vote. The extra voters can vote for either side ..

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Can't see how any fair minded people from either side can object to allowing more people to vote. The extra voters can vote for either side ..

I don't object to them given more time to register it's the fact they have had months to prepare for this and could have done it a lot sooner. I hope they all vote Leave!!

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Big Brian

I don't object to them given more time to register it's the fact they have had months to prepare for this and could have done it a lot sooner. I hope they all vote Leave!!

We're told that the pro EU youngsters can't be bothered vote anyway so why would they want to register?

[Ignitionnet]

The President of the European Commission in all his glory. Drunk, indiscreet, undiplomatic and rambunctious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPgiI46FCDU

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

We're told that the pro EU youngsters can't be bothered vote anyway so why would they want to register?

Fair question but according to the stats they are registering. Doesn't mean they'll vote or some of them at least. Depends on what new game is out or phone is out or their social life. I couldn't been a teenager these days. When I went drinking I could get drunk on £2. and still get a chippy on the way home. Now our club is £2 a pint.

Originally Posted by Big Brian

The problem is the figure. The NHS 'could' have more money but anyone with half a brain knows it's not £350 m. I don't think they have done themselves any favours with this figure.

The other point is that any rebate or contribution from the EU is at their discretion and we cannot decide how it is spent ,plus other contributions to the EU are rising

[Osem]

Don't panic. I'm certain that, despite the various threats and insults (veiled and otherwise) levelled at the UK over the years, the EU has our best interests at heart and will ensure our money is spent in the best possible manner for our own good. Who better to know what we want than those whose aim is to tell us...

Originally Posted by Mr K

At last an MP with some scruples, willing to call to a lie a lie and not tell them. Brexit meaning more money for the NHS is the biggest porky pie of the referendum. When the economy dives there'll be less money for everything. Anything going will be targeted to Boris' rich chums who of course go nowhere near the NHS.

Are you serious ? she has gone against everything she said a while back when Cameron came back with his now famous crappy deal

This is what she said

"the prime minister has returned with a threadbare deal that has highlighted our powerlessness to effect institutional change"

and

"the balance of our national interest now lies outside the EU".

No scruples there more like blatant hypocrisy given this is what she had to say in the Guardian in February

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...rope-refrendum

[Osem]

Maybe she's had one of Cameron's epiphanies...

As for the economy diving, just wait for Greece to implode and the resulting domino effect across S. Europe to see how the EU's economy dives, taking us with it. Now it's obvious why we'd want to be shackled to all that isn't it...

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

The President of the European Commission in all his glory. Drunk, indiscreet, undiplomatic and rambunctious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPgiI46FCDU

Can you find one for Boris? Shouldn't be too hard ..