Motability

Originally Posted by Kursk

Dog with a bone much? I certainly do not think that most people are defrauding benefits (which is off topic). You can't just make things up you know.

You forgot to mention the link posted in the OP. The link is 'disguised' like this - MOTABILITY - and it concerns motability fraud (which is on topic) and that is what the thread has been about for 6 pages.

What you did was sit in Kwikfit for an hour and make stupid and totally ridiculous assumptions based purely on your own prejudices and the fact that you didn't see any *money change hands* and then run home to find an article to back up your assumptions from that poor excuse for a news source and now you keep saying other posters are "off topic" when they disagree with your view point.

If you really want to read more of the article that I quoted, simply use google. I didn't post a link because a short extract seemed to be enough information. The article gives loose credence to Motability abuse at Kwikfit albeit some years ago.

The onus is on you to provide links to your quotes so other members can read the full text not just the bits chosen to back up a particular view point and taken out of context.

** because you didn't see any money change hands does not mean there was fraud and it certainly does not mean that the tyres were buckshee and the tracking was free ,it simply means you have not the first clue what you are talking about

[pip08456]

Perhaps the OP did not provide a link to any article regarding the "Motability tyre fraud" as it did not cost the motability scheme a penny. It was Kwik Fit who were defrauded by thier workers.

“They had already won the fleet contract and been paid for it, so it was simply a matter of logging it as a Motability job on the computer accounts. They were all earning between £180 and £200 each a month on top of their wages."

Source http://www.etyres.co.uk/news/kwik-fi...scam-4570.html

[techguyone]

I know it's wrong but I LOL'd a little bit.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by martyh

What you did was sit in Kwikfit for an hour and make stupid and totally ridiculous assumptions based purely on your own prejudices and the fact that you didn't see any *money change hands* and then run home to find an article to back up your assumptions from that poor excuse for a news source and now you keep saying other posters are "off topic" when they disagree with your view point.

Quite the persistent little storyteller aren't you?

What really happened was I read the Mail, which I have delivered every day to keep abreast of all the dodgers and swindlers, and was incensed by the Motability swindlers article. Apoplectic with rage, I knew only a discussion on CF could sort the whole mess out. I hadn't expected Aesop to be spinning his fables here.

Unfortunately, Motability swindlers are still swindling to this day. Luckily, you and I are keeping it in the public eye; you're being a lot sneakier about it than I am though you ol' Devil.

Originally Posted by martyh

The onus is on you to provide links to your quotes so other members can read the full text not just the bits chosen to back up a particular view point and taken out of context.

Ok, ok, don't be embarrassed to ask for help with techy marty. Here's a link: Finding stuff on the Internet for Dummies.

Originally Posted by pip08456

Perhaps the OP did not provide a link to any article regarding the "Motability tyre fraud" as it did not cost the motability scheme a penny. It was Kwik Fit who were defrauded by thier workers.

Who said it did? Read the thread to understand the context there's a good chap, you've got it wrong again . Motability was used as a vehicle (no pun intended) for the fraud. Does your neighbour know you abuse his internet connection by posting your half-baked contributions?

Originally Posted by techguyone

I know it's wrong but I LOL'd a little bit.

Could you be anymore patronising and condescending which is ironic given the complete ignorance you have on the subject. People have tried to explain and be polite to you in this thread and it's a waste of time because your not interested in a debate you want to put your opinion out there and not have it questioned. Your attitude towards others absolutely stinks and everyone should just let this die and not bother anymore as it clearly isn't worth it.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Could you be anymore patronising and condescending which is ironic given the complete ignorance you have on the subject. People have tried to explain and be polite to you in this thread and it's a waste of time because your not interested in a debate you want to put your opinion out there and not have it questioned. Your attitude towards others absolutely stinks and everyone should just let this die and not bother anymore as it clearly isn't worth it.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Fiddlers do annoy me. Fiddlers should annoy everyone perhaps especially the genuine claimants who can be besmirched by the action of the cheats.

this sort of thing doesn't help [does she qualify for motability]

Benefits cheat caught HIKING after claiming she needed help getting out of bed
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/672...ing-disability

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Could you be anymore patronising and condescending which is ironic given the complete ignorance you have on the subject.

Do you not see the irony in referring to someone as ignorant whilst accusing them of being patronising and condescending? You underestimate what I know about the subject.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

People have tried to explain and be polite to you in this thread and it's a waste of time because your not interested in a debate you want to put your opinion out there and not have it questioned.

It is true that I am expressing an opinion and that opinion is open for debate. That is what happens on forums and, for that matter, in real life. Opinions will always differ; I accept that and perhaps so should you? It is not for me to tell others what to do though just as you're attempting in the next breath .

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Your attitude towards others absolutely stinks and everyone should just let this die and not bother anymore as it clearly isn't worth it.

If my 'attitude' stinks you have contributed to the smell. When insulted our options are to curl up in a darkened room and wish the World would go away, or to stand by our opinion and defend it. I chose the latter and have responded in kind.

My exchanges with you have been reasonably civil but I know that any discussion about Motability makes you jittery. I have repeatedly said it is only the swindlers that interest me because taxes should not subsidise the feckless. Several pages later we are at impasse: I think £70m of Motability swindling is too much and you don't; well, you do, but you don't want anything to be done about it just in case...

Originally Posted by ianch99

Well done for not mentioning the Daily Mail but a little sad that you're out of ideas and opt to hang onto the coat-tails of another poster.

Originally Posted by papa smurf

this sort of thing doesn't help [does she qualify for motability]

Benefits cheat caught HIKING after claiming she needed help getting out of bed
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/672...ing-disability

Thank you Papa .

Another cheat nailed. Quite a few to go though....

[denphone]

Of course any benefit cheat should be brought to book but when you say there is quite a few to go may we have a figure on that? as it would be nice to know what type of figure? you have in your mind when you say there are quite a few to go...

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by denphone

Of course any benefit cheat should be brought to book but when you say there is quite a few to go may we have a figure on that? as it would be nice to know what type of figure? you have in your mind when you say there are quite a few to go...

how many cheats do you get for £70,000,000 ?

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Well done for not mentioning the Daily Mail but a little sad that you're out of ideas and opt to hang onto the coat-tails of another poster

Really? I think most people reading this thread are puzzled why you are so angry. People have different opinions so you need to accept this .. sort of par for the course on a public forum.

Your current strategy of insulting people who disagree with you isn't the best approach .. no wonder you disable your forum reputation.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

how many cheats do you get for £70,000,000 ?

You tell me?.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by denphone

You tell me?.

well it could fund 3,500 £20,000 cars
or
411,764 road fund licenses at an average £170 [more if the tax is less /less if the tax is more per vehicle] thats if they do road fund licenses i'm not a motability boffin

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by denphone

Of course any benefit cheat should be brought to book but when you say there is quite a few to go may we have a figure on that? as it would be nice to know what type of figure? you have in your mind when you say there are quite a few to go...

Originally Posted by papa smurf

how many cheats do you get for £70,000,000 ?

Expertly answered Papa .

Originally Posted by ianch99

Really? I think most people reading this thread are puzzled why you are so angry.

Most people probably realise that there are £70m reasons for my 'anger'.

Originally Posted by ianch99

Your current strategy of insulting people who disagree with you isn't the best approach .. no wonder you disable your forum reputation.

My current strategy is tit for tat although I have not sworn at anyone or called them an idiot or implied they are morally bankrupt. You seem to have missed the earlier discussion about forum reputation which I choose to disable because I am free to do so. Seeing as you too have checked on my 'likeability rating', you're entitled to know it is in fact better than yours. Hang your head in shame .

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Kursk

My current strategy is tit for tat although I have not sworn at anyone or called them an idiot or implied they are morally bankrupt. You seem to have missed the earlier discussion about forum reputation which I choose to disable because I am free to do so. Seeing as you too have checked on my 'likeability rating', you're entitled to know it is in fact better than yours. Hang your head in shame .

Really? ... come back when you've grown up ..