General : Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

We have the new TiVo boxes prices info.

We also have 100% confirmed info on what you can do (apps and so on) with the new TiVo boxes.

When will you be able to tell us what it is, MB?

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

When will you be able to tell us what it is, MB?

We are trying to get two out of the three DNP orders removed.

[Ultimate.Conj]

I've removed the DNP orders, it's ok, you can tell everyone now, MB :-) :-)
lol

[denphone]

Just be a bit more patient UC.

[Ultimate.Conj]

Most of the info is already out there now anyway. It won't be long before they update our current Tivo and then bring out the new one.

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2016/05/vir...o-outdo-sky-q/

The company then released an entire new sentence of words about it to What HiFi, explaining: "There will be a new set-top box coming later this year, and it will support Ultra High Definition video. Before that we will be updating the existing TiVO set-top box to make its menus slicker and more picture-based." [Virgin via What HiFi]

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1375...-take-on-sky-q

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj

Most of the info is already out there now anyway. It won't be long before they update our current Tivo and then bring out the new one.

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2016/05/vir...o-outdo-sky-q/

The company then released an entire new sentence of words about it to What HiFi, explaining: "There will be a new set-top box coming later this year, and it will support Ultra High Definition video. Before that we will be updating the existing TiVO set-top box to make its menus slicker and more picture-based." [Virgin via What HiFi]

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1375...-take-on-sky-q

Some information may have appeared online but our Virgin Media Sources have still to lift the DNP orders.

[Horizon]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I haven't yet heard the video, but from what you report it sounds as though the new box will be an updated Tivo, and the box after that will be a Horizon box.

I hope I am right about this because it sounds to me that the Horizon box does not function very well, is slower than the current Tivo and needs a lot more work on it.

I gave the exact quote from Tom Mockbridge, nothing was left out, then gave my opinion.

EOS, as they're currently calling it, is cloud based. As someone over on the DS forums pointed out, of course there still needs to be some form of box to link your tv to VM services. But it will not be a SkyQ type box, a large box, but rather something like the Sky mini, a bit like the analogue cable boxes of old. I reckon everything will be stored in the cloud, not just recordings, but the EPG, encryption (no need for a smart card or smart card slot) meta data etc.

VM has made clear the interface will be tivo for the time being, but they will migrate the UK over to the Horizon interface at some point. What is not clear is what new hardware, if any, we will get.

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Originally Posted by andrewstevenson

He says sky q is a expensive decoder that is will interesting when he sets new TiVo price

I thought that was a key phrase and something which was left out of the official transcript of the webcast which is why I listened carefully to it (several times!!) and wrote exactly what was said here.

The fact he emphasises that Sky's new box is expensive is telling us that VM are not going down that road. As I just said to Old Boy, VM may launch some sort of new mini box, but it will be fed from the cloud. That is a key difference between how Sky and VM are launching new services.

Sky must rely more on equipment to feed customers with services, satellite is essentially one-way. Cable is not. That's the key.

Media Boy is saying that VM are upgrading their network capacity and everything in time will be fed from the cloud thus negating the need for expensive Sky type boxes on cable. I think VM could not not have been clearer.

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Originally Posted by spiderplant

No, but the new VOD servers might.

There's another bit of key info, from the person who knows!

The jigsaw pieces are coming together.

As I've stated before, VM may rebrand their VOD services to Liberty's own streaming service called MyPrime.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Many thanks for presenting this information on the new set top box and giving your opinion.
A further question comes to mind - will EOS have Tivo or Horizon software on it outside the UK?.

It will be Horizon and they've already said what it will be called, assuming its the same thing.

On the presentation slide there is mention of Horizon Lite, a cloud based service. I beleive EOS and Horizon Lite, as far as outside the UK goes, are one and the same thing. Perhaps here they'll call EOS Tivo Lite??

EOS is just an internal name they are using to describe their cloud based, 4k, next gen services. It is not a brand name we'll ever see.



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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Don't worry about Horizon, that's just the same generation as the current Tivo. LGI are talking about their new generation 4K box.
The new box has a working title of EOS.
It will have Tivo software on it in the UK.
We don't know what software it will have outside the UK.
The new EOS box will be rolled out globally as LGI's next generation offering.
Sounds very positive to me.

I think they were very clear, but to repeat. Horizon is the user interface that Liberty use for their current and future services outside the UK.

EOS is an internal name they use for their cloud based, 4k, next gen services. I believe, don't know for sure, that this is based on their RDK software specs that we've all spoken about before.

Everything, including the UK eventually, will use the Horizon interface.

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

The new streams are still testing off the EPG.

Thank you. Just in time for a certain cloud based service to launch...

Originally Posted by Media Boy

The new streams are still testing off the EPG.

With the two shopping channels from QVC.

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We have the new TiVo boxes prices info.

We also have 100% confirmed info on what you can do (apps and so on) with the new TiVo boxes.

It good you have the info but can you share prices With us so we know what to expect if not are we looking are prices like when TiVo launched £199

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by andrewstevenson

It good you have the info but can you share prices With us so we know what to expect if not are we looking are prices like when TiVo launched £199

The price list is still under an DNP order.

Originally Posted by Media Boy

The price list is still under an DNP order.

When will that be lifted to make sure I have enough to cover box cost

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by andrewstevenson

When will that be lifted to make sure I have enough to cover box cost

I doubt that it will be lifted before launch as it will be competitor sensitive information.

[OLD BOY]

BT may launch their own entertainment channel to rival Sky 1.

If this happens, it will be interesting to see whether we will have access to the new channel, and whether it will be wittheld from Sky until an agreement is reached with them to carry the missing Sky channels.

http://www.a516digital.com/2016/05/s...in-1-bt-1.html

Originally Posted by passingbat

I doubt that it will be lifted before launch as it will be competitor sensitive information.

It's a true point but sky are so greedy I couldn't see them lower the price, but I was told one box per account at start I was going to replace box TiVo with TiVo 4k

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I read this

" It is not known when the new box might be launched - simply that it will happen in this coming financial year. "

Does that not mean they would have till March 31st

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

BT may launch their own entertainment channel to rival Sky 1.

If this happens, it will be interesting to see whether we will have access to the new channel, and whether it will be wittheld from Sky until an agreement is reached with them to carry the missing Sky channels.

http://www.a516digital.com/2016/05/s...in-1-bt-1.html

How will we all survive , wonder if it will be as big a success as the AMC channel.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by andrewstevenson

It's a true point but sky are so greedy I couldn't see them lower the price, but I was told one box per account at start I was going to replace box TiVo with TiVo 4k

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I read this

" It is not known when the new box might be launched - simply that it will happen in this coming financial year. "

Does that not mean they would have till March 31st

Well, yes, but you already know that they have said they will launch it before Christmas if possible.

You will not be able to pin down a date at this stage because it is still being tested. Any problems will delay the launch and so they are not going to commit themselves at this stage.

You will just have to wait for now, I'm afraid.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

How will we all survive , wonder if it will be as big a success as the AMC channel.

It will probably be like Virgin 1 was. It wasn't a bad channel as channels go.