Difference Between Superhub 3 & Superhub 2ac?
17-03-2016, 10:39
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Re: Difference Between Superhub 3 & Superhub 2ac?
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ
What happens to the SH3 do they want it back?
Personally i think it was a mistake moving to a SH2ac as i am sure it wont be long before you get new firmware which would hopefully solve your problems and when the time comes you want the SH3 back they may charge you.
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They've not said they want it back so I'll see if they send it with a return pouch, but is there any reason I'd want the SH3 over the 2AC? Other than the available channels, my area has 16 but we've never seen any congestion on previous hubs with 8 channels so would I right in thinking it'd be fine for 200Meg (can't see us wanting anything quicker any time soon) and the 20meg upload when it comes?
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17-03-2016, 11:04
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Re: Difference Between Superhub 3 & Superhub 2ac?
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Originally Posted by Synthetic
They've not said they want it back so I'll see if they send it with a return pouch, but is there any reason I'd want the SH3 over the 2AC? Other than the available channels, my area has 16 but we've never seen any congestion on previous hubs with 8 channels so would I right in thinking it'd be fine for 200Meg (can't see us wanting anything quicker any time soon) and the 20meg upload when it comes?
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At some point you will need 16 downstream channels i think, package depending.
I am really surprised you chose a SH2ac rather than your own router and the SH3 in modem mode with the risk of losing your SH3 and being charged for it when you want it back.
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17-03-2016, 11:13
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Re: Difference Between Superhub 3 & Superhub 2ac?
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ
At some point you will need 16 downstream channels i think, package depending.
I am really surprised you chose a SH2ac rather than your own router and the SH3 in modem mode with the risk of losing your SH3 and being charged for it when you want it back.
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Couldn't convince my flatmate to invest in one, and they're sending this out for free anyway so in the short term this is likely the best option.
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18-03-2016, 13:14
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Re: Difference Between Superhub 3 & Superhub 2ac?
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Originally Posted by Synthetic
Couldn't convince my flatmate to invest in one, and they're sending this out for free anyway so in the short term this is likely the best option.
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SH3 is the only current long term solution assuming you ever want >300Mbps Tiers in the future? If you can't keep the SH3 (simply state that you need 4 week testing on SH2AC without the unacceptable inconvenience they have already caused trying to fix the problem).
I have all the hubs but then I'm constantly in Beta trials for last 6 years which is of course not a normal customer usage profile.
Quite obviously I couldn't afford to test anything for VM if I didn;t have that ability, as it would be a waste of my time (more expensive than any equipment after 2hrs of my testing time!  )
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18-03-2016, 14:07
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Re: Difference Between Superhub 3 & Superhub 2ac?
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Originally Posted by horseman
SH3 is the only current long term solution assuming you ever want >300Mbps Tiers in the future? If you can't keep the SH3 (simply state that you need 4 week testing on SH2AC without the unacceptable inconvenience they have already caused trying to fix the problem).
I have all the hubs but then I'm constantly in Beta trials for last 6 years which is of course not a normal customer usage profile.
Quite obviously I couldn't afford to test anything for VM if I didn;t have that ability, as it would be a waste of my time (more expensive than any equipment after 2hrs of my testing time!  )
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I think I'll do that, hang onto the SH3 for as long as I can (assuming they want it back) and hopefully there's be a public firmware update for it by then
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18-03-2016, 18:03
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Re: Difference Between Superhub 3 & Superhub 2ac?
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Originally Posted by Synthetic
Couldn't convince my flatmate to invest in one, and they're sending this out for free anyway so in the short term this is likely the best option.
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Invest in one yourself, when your flat mate moves out you'll still have it
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18-03-2016, 20:33
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Re: Difference Between Superhub 3 & Superhub 2ac?
True. I'm actually looking at one of the unifi ac-lr units mentioned elsewhere here, would still need the hub in router mode but the wireless would be a lot better.
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18-03-2016, 22:06
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Re: Difference Between Superhub 3 & Superhub 2ac?
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True. I'm actually looking at one of the unifi ac-lr units mentioned elsewhere here, would still need the hub in router mode but the wireless would be a lot better.
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Just keep in mind that the Unifi stuff relies on a separate "controller" that you have to run (Think of it as an application), or you can pay them a subscription to run it in the cloud. It's not like consumer routers where you just log into them by pointing your browser at them.
They are quality devices though.
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19-03-2016, 09:45
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Re: Difference Between Superhub 3 & Superhub 2ac?
Thats ok i already have a server running here i could run that off. Did a load of research on it yesterday and they seem like good devices!
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19-03-2016, 10:49
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Re: Difference Between Superhub 3 & Superhub 2ac?
We have 2 of the AP's in our office and all of our switches are Unifi, plus a couple of our VoIP phones. The integration is really neat.
My only issue with them is if they don't give you an option for something on the controller, it can be a ball ache enabling it - i.e. site to site VPN.
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19-03-2016, 12:57
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Re: Difference Between Superhub 3 & Superhub 2ac?
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Originally Posted by Kushan
We have 2 of the AP's in our office and all of our switches are Unifi, plus a couple of our VoIP phones. The integration is really neat.
My only issue with them is if they don't give you an option for something on the controller, it can be a ball ache enabling it - i.e. site to site VPN.
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I don't think that will be an issue if I just get the one for our flat, but that's worth bearing in mind as I was thinking of maybe getting one for work and we do use stuff like site to site VPN.
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19-03-2016, 13:11
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Re: Difference Between Superhub 3 & Superhub 2ac?
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Originally Posted by Synthetic
I don't think that will be an issue if I just get the one for our flat, but that's worth bearing in mind as I was thinking of maybe getting one for work and we do use stuff like site to site VPN.
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The Unifi stuff is nice, the site-to-site VPN example is only an issue if you use the USG (Unifi Security Gateway), there's nothing in the controller to do this except with another USG, but you can ssh in to set those settings. If you have a different appliance for your S2S VPN, it's not a problem.
I'd highly recommend them for Small businesses, the configuration is a doddle and they're so easy to manage, it's literally the edge cases that can be a pain to do but if you're ok with SSH, then it's a non-issue.
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19-03-2016, 13:32
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Re: Difference Between Superhub 3 & Superhub 2ac?
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Originally Posted by Kushan
The Unifi stuff is nice, the site-to-site VPN example is only an issue if you use the USG (Unifi Security Gateway), there's nothing in the controller to do this except with another USG, but you can ssh in to set those settings. If you have a different appliance for your S2S VPN, it's not a problem.
I'd highly recommend them for Small businesses, the configuration is a doddle and they're so easy to manage, it's literally the edge cases that can be a pain to do but if you're ok with SSH, then it's a non-issue.
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Yep I'm fine with SSH, I'm just reading on some of the stuff you can do with the linux OS on it, seems pretty good if you have the time and knowledge to mess about with.
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