More cuts from failing Osborne

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by spanna

"..The Institute for Fiscal Studies’ illuminating green budget shows that by 2019/20, public expenditure outside health.."

bloody tories protecting health services .. oh wait

Except they aren't. They're protecting a subset while moving burdens onto local authorities whose budgets they are continuing to cut aggressively so that they have someone else to blame.

It's part of the reason they don't want a more efficient, integrated health and care system. They'd have to widen the ring fence and either spend more or take some blame for the pain their cuts are causing.

This is also why they are so in favour of elected mayors - gives another level of scapegoat for their own cuts to local authority budgets.

[Chrysalis]

I remember reporting here about the reenablement program where hospitals are discharging patients into the care of carers funded by the council, someone on here asked me to post proof which I duly did, that person never replied since on the subject. Its as if people pretend this isnt happening, hands over ears.

On top of that they enforced handcuffs to councils by disallowing council tax rises above 2%, as well as forcing them to protect pensioners on council tax benefit cuts.

[Mr K]

Oh dear, George out has run out of money ...
http://www.theguardian.com/business/...budget-obr-pay

His much promised wages growth hasn't happened, so he can't grab as much tax..

Or can he? I'd stock up on wine, beer and fuel this week....

[techguyone]

Yes I expect the budget will be 'interesting'

[Mr K]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a6927056.html

George's latest wheeze; cut another £150 a week in disability benefits to fund further tax cuts for the rich. Needing to go to the toilet or dress are unnecessary luxuries and they don't need help with that.

I think he's a modern day Robin Hood, but he's just got things the wrong way round... Easy mistake to make...

[techguyone]

They've really got a hard on for the disabled, its completely meaningless while they waste 12+ Billion /yr on Foreign aid, the savings made from cutting benefits pales into insignificance, I think sensible people realised cuts needed to be made, and on the whole, have stood them with reasonable good grace, but we're now some 6 years in and no end in sight, Civil Service infrastructure is at its lowest since WW 2

Ossie needs to get a grip his one trick pony act isn't cutting it, and they'll get punished next Election, even if Labour are unelectable, people just may well vote UKIP/Lib Dem as Fark you gesture. UKIP may actually get some MP's next time especially if as I expect, we don't vote to leave the EU.

Originally Posted by Mr K

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a6927056.html

George's latest wheeze; cut another £150 a week in disability benefits to fund further tax cuts for the rich. Needing to go to the toilet or dress are unnecessary luxuries and they don't need help with that.

I think he's a modern day Robin Hood, but he's just got things the wrong way round... Easy mistake to make...

Why should disabled people get weekly payments for aids and appliances they already have

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Originally Posted by techguyone

They've really got a hard on for the disabled, its completely meaningless while they waste 12+ Billion /yr on Foreign aid, the savings made from cutting benefits pales into insignificance, I think sensible people realised cuts needed to be made, and on the whole, have stood them with reasonable good grace, but we're now some 6 years in and no end in sight, Civil Service infrastructure is at its lowest since WW 2

Ossie needs to get a grip his one trick pony act isn't cutting it, and they'll get punished next Election, even if Labour are unelectable, people just may well vote UKIP/Lib Dem as Fark you gesture. UKIP may actually get some MP's next time especially if as I expect, we don't vote to leave the EU.

Seem to remember a lot of people saying that last election and still haven't come to terms with that fact they where wrong .Just because someone is disabled does not mean they should be the recipient of a never ending supply of money

[techguyone]

Thats just wrong, you see the promise of 'Jam tomorrow' remember that? only works as long as Tomorrow comes, we've been cutting things for a very long time with no sign of tomorrow coming, is it really that much of a stretch to think that people might just be getting a bit sick of it?

It does seem like the disabled are getting a good kicking though no two ways about it.

Originally Posted by techguyone

Thats just wrong, you see the promise of 'Jam tomorrow' remember that? only works as long as Tomorrow comes, we've been cutting things for a very long time with no sign of tomorrow coming, is it really that much of a stretch to think that people might just be getting a bit sick of it?

It does seem like the disabled are getting a good kicking though no two ways about it.

I'm currently eating that jam and so are an awful lot of people i know .

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by martyh

I'm currently eating that jam and so are an awful lot of people i know .

Like wise. I'm having to turn work down or schedule it into the summer. Nobody complains when being given extra money financed by state borrowing but they really squeal when that borrowing has to be paid for.

[Chrysalis]

Utterly disgusting, to get mobility payments on PIP is already very difficult as the criteria is significantly different to DLA, but these extra proposed changes simply to fund tax cuts for those who dont need it is disgusting.

But as I said months ago, the disabled are the easiest political target due to their small numbers, we have seen attacks on other parts of society failing due to the overwhelming negative press response. They simply refuse to see anything other than cutting expenditure as the way forward.

[Taf]

As well as paying for equipment and aids, Disabled Living Allowance and Personal Independence Payments are there to provide a minimal income for those that cannot work due to their disabilities.

Iain Duncan Smith and his cronies seem determined to reduce the income of all non-working adults to the same low level, i.e. that of Jobseekers Allowance.

It has been reported that they are determined to move all disabled people on Employment Support Allowance (Work-related activity group) to just Jobseekers Allowance, ignoring the extra costs they endure in being actively seeking employment.

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Utterly disgusting, to get mobility payments on PIP is already very difficult as the criteria is significantly different to DLA, but these extra proposed changes simply to fund tax cuts for those who dont need it is disgusting.

But as I said months ago, the disabled are the easiest political target due to their small numbers, we have seen attacks on other parts of society failing due to the overwhelming negative press response. They simply refuse to see anything other than cutting expenditure as the way forward.

The above post shows the type of leftie bollocks that ruined this country.Who the hell do you think you are telling people on £31,786 PA that they don't need a tax break ,they are the very people paying most of their income out to support disabled and unemployed people and yet are giving up nearly half of their income .

[tweedle]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Utterly disgusting, to get mobility payments on PIP is already very difficult as the criteria is significantly different to DLA, but these extra proposed changes simply to fund tax cuts for those who dont need it is disgusting.

But as I said months ago, the disabled are the easiest political target due to their small numbers, we have seen attacks on other parts of society failing due to the overwhelming negative press response. They simply refuse to see anything other than cutting expenditure as the way forward.

Cuts that effect the genuine disabled are wrong, but part of the reason no one is all that bothered is due to fraudsters. We all have a neighbor or know of someone who is onbenefits, gets a free car, never goes to work but is blatantly abusing the system.

I know a fella who apparently can barely walk unaided but a few weeks ago walked 3 miles from a pub having left his "walking aid" behind. I've also seen him get out a taxi and have to run behind it waving it down having left his walking aid in it an walked up his drive unaided.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by martyh

The above post shows the type of leftie bollocks that ruined this country.Who the hell do you think you are telling people on £31,786 PA that they don't need a tax break ,they are the very people paying most of their income out to support disabled and unemployed people and yet are giving up nearly half of their income .

The above post shows what a different planet a certain section of society are living on. The average wage in the UK is £26k. Only the income above £31,786 is taxed at the higher rate - a long way from 'half their income'. That anyone on these rates of income feels they need more at the expense of the basic needs of the disabled, is a sad enditement of our increasingly selfish and divided society.