World War III Will Be Less High-Tech Than Anyone Imagines
25-09-2015, 23:19
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World War III Will Be Less High-Tech Than Anyone Imagines
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Last year, the (US) Naval Academy made two distinct changes in how it operates—one that’s a natural progression in cyberwarfare, the other a clear response to how thoroughly we rely on that technology.
“First, they've created a cyberwarfare center and created the first class of midshipmen who will be cybersecurity majors,” cybersecurity and military expert Peter W. Singer recently told me. “Second, they required that every midshipman learn how to do celestial navigation like they did back in the 1700s. We're preparing both for a world of cyberwarfare and, ‘oh my goodness, what if I have to go back to navigating by the stars?’”
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What would happen if the next war knocked out our technology? (GPS, smartphones, Internet, etc.)
"Ghost Fleet" is an excellent book, like "Red Storm Rising" updated for the 21st Centurt.
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25-09-2015, 23:33
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Re: World War III Will Be Less High-Tech Than Anyone Imagines
Stuff like this is exactly why I'm doing the MSc I am. Seriously serious stuff.
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26-09-2015, 00:00
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Re: World War III Will Be Less High-Tech Than Anyone Imagines
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What would happen if the next war knocked out our technology? (GPS, smartphones, Internet, etc.)
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With respect to navigation (not precision munitions) eLORAN. Governments across the world have been bringing systems online over the past few years. Even the US who had originally canned it realised that in the light of jamming attacks on the Korean peninsula by the loons in the North realised that it would be foolish not to have a backup to GPS for, at the very least, maritime safety.
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26-09-2015, 05:25
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Re: World War III Will Be Less High-Tech Than Anyone Imagines
I also think it will be less high-tech than some people imagine. Just watch the carnage when Facebook goes down for 10 minutes.
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26-09-2015, 06:11
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Re: World War III Will Be Less High-Tech Than Anyone Imagines
Interesting he mentioned Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rsing. Excellent book for its time.
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26-09-2015, 08:41
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Re: World War III Will Be Less High-Tech Than Anyone Imagines
People would have to communicate with their mouths and not their index fingers.
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26-09-2015, 09:11
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Re: World War III Will Be Less High-Tech Than Anyone Imagines
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Stuff like this is exactly why I'm doing the MSc I am. Seriously serious stuff.
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You need an MSc to navigate by the stars???? I can find the pub in the dark!
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26-09-2015, 10:29
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Re: World War III Will Be Less High-Tech Than Anyone Imagines
I was navigating and mapping using highly accurate astronomical observations and calculations over 30 years ago, using kit like this, star tables and a calculator. In the middle of nowhere with no known landmarks or fancy GPS/laser technology, it's how it was done. How things have changed...
http://www.dehilster.info/geodetic_i...theodolite.php
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26-09-2015, 20:10
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Re: World War III Will Be Less High-Tech Than Anyone Imagines
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Stuff like this is exactly why I'm doing the MSc I am. Seriously serious stuff.
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What is your MSc in?
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26-09-2015, 20:40
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Re: World War III Will Be Less High-Tech Than Anyone Imagines
Information Security. Cybersecurity is the apparently 'cool' name for it now though 
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26-09-2015, 21:27
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Re: World War III Will Be Less High-Tech Than Anyone Imagines
Or "InfoSec", apparently 
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26-09-2015, 21:38
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26-09-2015, 22:27
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Re: World War III Will Be Less High-Tech Than Anyone Imagines
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Royal Holloway has/had a good course on security --commercial that is.
Mr Robot it's a cool series with somewhat realistic hacking....
And the Chinese make most electronics for many makes, what's to stop them putting backdoors on the chips? Take Netis routers for example ( UDP port 53413) ....
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26-09-2015, 23:28
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Re: World War III Will Be Less High-Tech Than Anyone Imagines
Strangely enough, that's the basis of the plot of "Ghost Fleet"...
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26-09-2015, 23:53
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Re: World War III Will Be Less High-Tech Than Anyone Imagines
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And the Chinese make most electronics for many makes, what's to stop them putting backdoors on the chips? Take Netis routers for example ( UDP port 53413) ....
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A robust accreditation and assurance process.
Either way the hardware isn't usually the problem. It's the people who design, configure and operate it.
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