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[Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership
View Poll Results: Who will the new Labour leader be?
Alan Johnson 3 5.66%
Chuka Umunna 5 9.43%
Andy Burnham 9 16.98%
Yvette Cooper 1 1.89%
Harriet Harman 2 3.77%
Someone Else 7 13.21%
Don't Know / Don't Care 26 49.06%
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Old 13-09-2015, 09:25   #241
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Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?

It's going to be the media that decide his fate..but tempered by social networks like Facebook.
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Re: [Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership

The only good thing that I've seen Corbyn connected with is his dislike of the EU.
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Old 13-09-2015, 15:03   #243
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Re: [Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership

If the cable forum reality spins on the same axis as the real world reality then the bookies made a few quid going by the above poll and the subsequent win by Mr Corbyn
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Old 13-09-2015, 16:51   #244
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Re: [Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership

[gloat] Watching the Labour party implode [/gloat]

Never has the phrase "Be careful what you wish for" been so appropriate.

With Labour under Corbyn now being anti EU. Cameron will have his work cut out to try and persuade us he has made a deal with the German apparatchiks that is good for us (NOT)
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Re: [Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership

Chuka Umunna refuses to be in the shadow cabinet as he wants unconditional campaigning to stay in the EU.

As does Emma Reynolds.

https://twitter.com/EmmaReynoldsMP/s...65613754580993

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I agree with @ChukaUmunna #Labour must campaign to stay in the EU. Looking forward to taking active role in the campaign.
So, regardless of what is achieved in a renegotiation, regardless of that the EU thinks the Tories should be cutting harder and faster, regardless that the EU costs us billions a year, regardless that the EU and ECB brutally subjugated Greece by destroying its economy, regardless that Schengen is falling apart and the EU constantly bickering we must apparently campaign to stay in.

Ideological delusion.
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Re: [Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership

John McDonnell has been appointed Shadow Chancellor and within minutes everyone can point to this: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...and.devolution

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A call to honour the "bravery and sacrifice" of the IRA by Labour MP John McDonnell sparked controversy last night, with Conservatives and unionists uniting to denounce the leftwinger and the Labour party distancing itself from his remarks.

At a gathering to commemorate the IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands, Mr McDonnell said: "It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA."
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Re: [Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership

Well, it remains to be seen if the predictions of doom are correct, maybe after a term of unfettered Tory administration, people may find tired old left wing policies to be more palatable.

Maybe the Lib Dems can regain the ground they lost, and claim some back from the disgruntled Labour moderates.

Maybe Corbyn will be ousted, or maybe there will be a split.
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Re: [Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership

Who knows what the future holds as it can be very dangerous to predict things in a increasingly volatile world....
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Re: [Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership

Just been listening to an interview with Emily Thornbury on BBC Breakfast on the subject of defence, since it appears she may be in line for the role of shadow defence secretary. She reckons we shouldn't have nuclear weapons because using them would "be killing women and children". I see she's not too bothered about men being killed by that's no surprise is it. Anyway, nuclear weapons aside I'm not sure many wars have been fought in which women and children weren't killed so I wonder what our armed forces would look like in her world.
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Re: [Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership

At the end of the day Corbyn will have to work with the MPs he has..and without their support he's going to have a hard time implementing some of his policies..So I suggest that some of the hard left stuff and the hard right stuff and the centerist stuff will be adapted to a fudged try to fit all policies..
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Re: [Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership

It's nice to see such a charming man appointed Shadow Chancellor - John McDonnell - an MP who only a few years ago claimed he'd like to have been able to assassinate a former prime minister. Can you imagine the vitriol hypocrite extremists like him would level at any Tory who did such a thing?

The thing about people like this is that under the soft looking exterior they're in many ways as extreme as those they spend their lives condemning.
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Re: [Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership

Interesting to read comments on Billy Bragg's FB pages (and others like them).

Staunch supporters of Jeremy Corbyn are saying those who have resigned from the shadow cabinet, and other MPs who are not "loyal" to Jeremy should be deselected.

Seems an unusual viewpoint as one of JC's selling points about "being different" was how often he had rebelled against the Labour Party line (you know, being "disloyal").
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Re: [Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership

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Interesting to read comments on Billy Bragg's FB pages (and others like them).

Staunch supporters of Jeremy Corbyn are saying those who have resigned from the shadow cabinet, and other MPs who are not "loyal" to Jeremy should be deselected.

Seems an unusual viewpoint as one of JC's selling points about "being different" was how often he had rebelled against the Labour Party line (you know, being "disloyal").
Those on the extremes always love a good purge of those they see as lacking 'ideological purity'.
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Interesting to read comments on Billy Bragg's FB pages (and others like them).

Staunch supporters of Jeremy Corbyn are saying those who have resigned from the shadow cabinet, and other MPs who are not "loyal" to Jeremy should be deselected.

Seems an unusual viewpoint as one of JC's selling points about "being different" was how often he had rebelled against the Labour Party line (you know, being "disloyal").
I think there'll be plenty more examples of blatant double standards and hypocrisy evident in coming weeks/months.
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It's nice to see such a charming man appointed Shadow Chancellor - John McDonnell - an MP who only a few years ago claimed he'd like to have been able to assassinate a former prime minister. Can you imagine the vitriol hypocrite extremists like him would level at any Tory who did such a thing?

The thing about people like this is that under the soft looking exterior they're in many ways as extreme as those they spend their lives condemning.
I think you need to get some perspective. I doubt many would characterise the Labour Shadow Cabinet as extremists
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