General : Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2

[theone2k10]

BTs ultra hd pack is £15p/m this includes the entertainment plus and hd pack though.

[blue666666]

that's not a bad price, just hope virgin don't take to long to bring out a 4k box

[alwaysabear]

Originally Posted by blue666666

that's not a bad price, just hope virgin don't take to long to bring out a 4k box

It could be in development, but no need to rush , as there is limited content available and will be for sometime. I agree with Muppetman .

[DaMac]

Originally Posted by passingbat

Spot on. ATM, the only 4K material is via Netflix and Amazon, which you get via apps on your 4K TV anyway.

As I think MM said, films could be another option. but if Sky started a 'Sky Movies 4K' channel, there is no way they would let VM have it. Maybe VM's PPV movies provider could include 4K movies?

VM will need to get a 4K box at some stage because Sky and BT are launching one and customers won't want to feel left behind. But the usefulness of a VM 4K box, ATM, is at best, minimal.

As you say Netflix and Amazon are available on your 4k TV already, as for films if you have Amazon or Netflix you will see very few movies available in 4k, that to is a situation where a studio doesn't want a new film to be available in 4k cinema quality for a cheap subscription, they want to be able to physically sell it for £25 when UHD blu-ray comes out, and the time and money that will be required to re-scan back catalogues will mean only films they can sell a lot of will be mastered first., don't expect to see a dedicated 4k film channel for many years, if ever.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

I wouldn't expect those channels to introduce 4K anytime soon , in my opinion 2017 at the earliest , Netflix and Amazon is available to most people buying new 4K sets anyway.

People like to access services via one remote control so I can see Netflix being a selling point - although I appreciate it would also be available on TVs.
I can see nature documentaries being good for 4K as they fit in well with the demographic of subscribers plus have great longevity. Discovery is a strategic partner of Liberty Global (whatever that means) so you think the two could work together on something here.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

People like to access services via one remote control so I can see Netflix being a selling point - although I appreciate it would also be available on TVs.
I can see nature documentaries being good for 4K as they fit in well with the demographic of subscribers plus have great longevity. Discovery is a strategic partner of Liberty Global (whatever that means) so you think the two could work together on something here.

But surely it's as easy to access Netflix in 4K from your TV and probably quicker , I would hardly class it as a selling point when the majority of new 4K TVs offer access to both Netflix and Amazon in 4K.

I fully agree about documentaries looking good in 4K and Discovery are already filming in it , the problem is 4K will cost companies fortunes and I don't see many looking to set individual TV channels up anytime soon.

I read recently that Discovery had been experimenting with 4K and also considered trying with Eurosport , as you say VM could easily strike a partnership making content available on its On Demand service.

In my opinion 4K will initially be built around premium content , BT are already doing it with certain BT Sports events , from next year Sky will do similar with Sky Sports and possibly other key events (Sky Arts concerts , odd Sky movie etc). I'd be amazed if either broadcaster made there 4K offering available wholesale.

I expect strategic partnerships when 4K becomes more mainstream , most of the pay HD channels originally started in this way.

[blue666666]

if virgin can get the sky 4k and bt 4k channels then everything will be good.if not (more then likely)then virgin could be dead in the water.no tv channel as yet come out with a date for a 4k channel(like bbc itv fox etc etc)premium tens to mean live events or new movies like star war 7.hopefully with more people buying, virgin will come out with more information and a plan.

[Anypermitedroute]

Originally Posted by blue666666

if virgin can get the sky 4k and bt 4k channels then everything will be good.if not (more then likely)then virgin could be dead in the water.no tv channel as yet come out with a date for a 4k channel(like bbc itv fox etc etc)premium tens to mean live events or new movies like star war 7.hopefully with more people buying, virgin will come out with more information and a plan.

We never got sky 3D when it was around, a struggle to get sky premium and still on going discussions to get standard HD like history HD and 4/7HD I can't see ultra HD anytime soon

[blue666666]

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute

We never got sky 3D when it was around, a struggle to get sky premium and still on going discussions to get standard HD like history HD and 4/7HD I can't see ultra HD anytime soon

i known am not optimistic for future virgin missed out this year with new channel and has you said no HD history 4/7HD but with sky fighting it out with BT they might be more willing to work out a deal with virgin.

[Ianmez78]

I am the only one who thinks that 4K is coming to soon and the majority of people won't want to upgrade so quickly after normal high definition has just become mainstream

[tassiekev]

Originally Posted by Ianmez78

I am the only one who thinks that 4K is coming to soon and the majority of people won't want to upgrade so quickly after normal high definition has just become mainstream

Yep, you're the only one

If MUTV was in 4k, I'd be there and I bet you would be too. Paddy Crerand in UHD - who wouldn't pay to see that?

[Ianmez78]

Originally Posted by tassiekev

Yep, you're the only one

If MUTV was in 4k, I'd be there and I bet you would be too. Paddy Crerand in UHD - who wouldn't pay to see that?

I'm not sure I would Paddy's ugly enough in SD

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by Ianmez78

I am the only one who thinks that 4K is coming to soon and the majority of people won't want to upgrade so quickly after normal high definition has just become mainstream

8K is already on the way too, been out in Japan and South Korea for a while now and already Sont, Samsung and LG are testing it in Europe. It'll be here by 2018 http://tech.thaivisa.com/8k-tv-avail...om-2018/10857/ also if you look around you'll see reports of Samsung testing a 11k tv.

[andrewbrown]

Originally Posted by Ianmez78

I'm not sure I would Paddy's ugly enough in SD

Wait until they interview old red nose...

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by theone2k10

8K is already on the way too, been out in Japan and South Korea for a while now and already Sont, Samsung and LG are testing it in Europe. It'll be here by 2018 http://tech.thaivisa.com/8k-tv-avail...om-2018/10857/ also if you look around you'll see reports of Samsung testing a 11k tv.

HDR is going to be the game changer in my view, where you don't need a massive TV to see the improvement. Given that it is reckoned that you won't see much of a difference between 1080p and 4K at normal viewing distances unless your TV is at least 60-65 inches, how big is an 8k TV going to have to be to gain an advantage?

HDR will give you a better picture independent of size.

Here’s the backstory. We’ve heard about 4K/UHD for years now, but as you probably know, unless the TV is really, really big, or you’re sitting extraordinarily close to it, the perceptible image is similar to 1080p. For this reason, many Hollywood studios sitting on film or similar stock that could be converted to 4K have resisted.

HDR is different. Briefly, HDR expands the range between the brightest and the darkest pixels in a TV set, expanding the contrast to look more like film than video. Many TVs that support HDR will also expand the color space from Rec 709 to Rec 2020 (discussed in our earlier article), so the colors will look richer and deeper. So unlike Plain Jane 4K, the difference doesn’t depend upon how close you sit to the TV, or how big the set is. The difference will be very noticeable even on similarly sized sets viewed from the same distance. So unlike 4K, which has been a pretty big "meh" for most consumers without too much money on their hands, everyone who sees HDR will want it.

http://www.streamingmedia.com/Articl...et-105068.aspx