Unstoppable migration?

[Jimmy-J]

Farage: Draft In Army To Sort Out Migrant Crisis

[Osem]

So we still have an army?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Osem

So we still have an army?

Its more of a boy scouts group these days now its been cut to the bone.

[heero_yuy]

Unless they're allowed to open fire to restore order they can do little more than the average burley copper.

Why are the home office morons processing their asylum applications? They arrived through the tunnel or on a ferry from France, a "safe" country so the application is void and should be refused on the spot.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Unless they're allowed to open fire to restore order they can do little more than the average burley copper.

Why are the home office morons processing their asylum applications? They arrived through the tunnel or on a ferry from France, a "safe" country so the application is void and should be refused on the spot.

Totally agree. The very reason these people hang around in Calais is because they know their claims, no matter how obviously dishonest, will be processed and in the meantime most of them will be allowed on their way to disappear into the black economy to try to build the family lives they know will help them remain here for good. As I've said before, the only way to stop this is to refuse entry to anyone who's come from places like Calais and return them immediately they're detected.

[nomadking]

We are an island and as such the overwhelming number of asylum seekers are bogus. Even if they have arrived via Heathrow, the airport they took off from is unlikely to have been under fire. Even when there is something like a civil war, there will be areas of that country not affected. It's a bit like claiming asylum in the US, because of riots in London.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by nomadking

We are an island and as such the overwhelming number of asylum seekers are bogus. Even if they have arrived via Heathrow, the airport they took off from is unlikely to have been under fire. Even when there is something like a civil war, there will be areas of that country not affected. It's a bit like claiming asylum in the US, because of riots in London.

While people are effectively given a choice where to claim asylum we shouldn't be surprised that they exercise it by passing through numerous safe countries to get here.

Having said that, with the Greeks and Italians handing out documents and allowing economic migrants to disperse anywhere they like, there's increasingly little we can do about it unless we decide to act unilaterally.

It's as sad as it is laughable that right now the major commercial link between the UK and the continent is being totally disrupted by a few thousand migrants. How much money is this costing us directly and indirectly I wonder? Does anyone imagine that these angry young men are going to become model citizens if/when they finally arrive in the UK. By remaining in Calais and living how they've chosen to, they have shown they have no regard for the law and IMHO there's little chance they'll have any more respect for those of our laws they decide they don't much like in the course of time. How are people like this going to react if/when their claims are rejected and they're detained for removal? Having endured such a lot to get here they're not going to just give up so by admitting them we're just storing up huge problems for the future. It may be unpalatable but we can't carry on allowing thousands of unknown people onto our shores in this manner.

[Taf]

Originally Posted by Osem

So we still have an army?

20,000 fewer than we did have, 81,700 now. And Reservists 19,000 to 21,030, and not the 30,000 they hoped for.

[Osem]

Well I'm hearing on the Beeb that there may be an agreement between the French and UK govts. to commence repatriations from Calais to N. Africa. Can't see that working out.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Osem

Well I'm hearing on the Beeb that there may be an agreement between the French and UK govts. to commence repatriations from Calais to N. Africa. Can't see that working out.

Whilst the Royal Navy ferry them from North Africa back into Italy to have another go at getting into Blighty.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Osem

Well I'm hearing on the Beeb that there may be an agreement between the French and UK govts. to commence repatriations from Calais to N. Africa. Can't see that working out.

At least if the French are the ones dealing with it, then the ILLEGAL immigrants are out of reach of the British "judges" and legal aid lawyers.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by nomadking

At least if the French are the ones dealing with it, then the ILLEGAL immigrants are out of reach of the British "judges" and legal aid lawyers.

They're as bad as the migrants for milking the system.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by nomadking

We are an island and as such the overwhelming number of asylum seekers are bogus. Even if they have arrived via Heathrow, the airport they took off from is unlikely to have been under fire. Even when there is something like a civil war, there will be areas of that country not affected. It's a bit like claiming asylum in the US, because of riots in London.

No, we're not, not since the channel tunnel was completed.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by nomadking

At least if the French are the ones dealing with it, then the ILLEGAL immigrants are out of reach of the British "judges" and legal aid lawyers.

Nobody's dealing with this effectively. We have a chaotic immigration/asylum system which is routinely abused and the EU is sending out mixed messages to people around the globe. On the one hand trying to do stuff liking keeping budding terrorists out (having stupidly removed internal borders in most of the EU) and preventing citizens from heading off to Syria whilst at the same time allowing large numbers of mainly young men whose origins and intentions are totally unknown to wander around Europe choosing where they claim asylum. If anyone wanted an example of chaos in action this would be it.

[mrmistoffelees]

Go away and read this....

http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.a...immigration-uk