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Old 25-07-2015, 17:20   #1
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Connection repeatedly dropping

Hi there,

I have been a VM customer for years and until recently was on 20Mbit. I came back from holiday and then my connection kept dropping.

An engineer came around and installed a SuperHub, which I use in modem only. The same symptoms were exhibited just a day or two later. An engineer came around again and installed a SuperHub 2 and changed some connections outside.

I am running the SuperHub 2 as a Modem only. This goes in to my Linux server. On this box I have DHCP, DNS and iptables to masquerade the connection and forward it on to clients.

The VM engineer that came around last time was a Supervisor and said that as I was using my own equipment, they were unable to see what is going wrong. I fail to understand why this is the case. The SuperHub is still at the forefront of the network, so they should be able to get their readings just fine. I wasn't too impressed with him. The other engineer was able to put me into modem only mode wirelessly, so that I did not need to physically connect the SuperHub and accidentally double NAT myself. The other 'Supervisor' spent around 10 minutes trying to login to 192.168.1.1 and then 'refused' to assist because I have a server. One thing I would like some clarification with: he said that because he was reading no T(x) timeouts, the system was fine. Are these timeouts persistent across reboots in the SuperHub? He told me that they were, and that it meant my connection was perfect. But I really don't believe this...

Nonetheless, during periods of downtime, I have attached the cable directly in to a Windows PC, just to make sure things are normal, but have not had any improvement either.

My symptoms are that the network just 'drops' offline. During this time, a ping to 8.8.8.8 will return me a 'Host destination unreachable'. I am unable to ping 192.168.100.1 (the SH in Modem Only mode) or resolve the page either during this time.

I have noticed from running tcpdump on 67 that Virgin Media's DHCP servers seem extremely slow to respond to discovers. My guess would be that the SNR is dropping temporarily, then my SH is taking a long time to resynchronise with the network. I noticed that removing the coax from the SH and reconnecting it will not result in automatically re-establishing the connection, so this may support this idea.

This has been going on for two weeks now and is quite frustrating. I want this fixed, but I'm not sure how to diagnose this one. Connection went down typing this...

Here are my numbers when my connection is up. I have a 6Db FPA on my SH.

Here is my routing information. My IP is: 82.14.218.xxx

Code:
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
default         cpc3-croy21-2-0 0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth1
default         precise.sam 0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0
82.14.216.0     *               255.255.252.0   U     0      0        0 eth1
localnet        *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
192.168.122.0   *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 virbr0
and I added the following ifup.d rule to add the correct routing information, because it seems it has never been acquired from DHCP since I've been using this box in 2012.

Code:
	post-up route add default gw 82.14.218.1
	pre-down route del default gw 82.14.218.1
So, where do I go from here?

Many thanks,

Sam
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Old 25-07-2015, 19:10   #2
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Re: Connection repeatedly dropping

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Hi there,

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So, where do I go from here?

Many thanks,

Sam
Superficially appears you may had 2 separate issues with that history. Possibly the legacy DOCSIS1 SACM was an RF impairment now possibly the SH2 DOCSIS3 Hub may well be suffering a DHCP issue with it's latest V2.01.03 firmware (a known bug - fixed but not yet implemented/beta tested).

You could check RouterStatus > Information > Software Version

Then head over to VM Community Help & Support Website.
and search for "2.01.03 DHCP" eg DHCP-seems-broken-since-upgrade-to-V2-01-03

Worth checking out anyway.
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Old 25-07-2015, 19:28   #3
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Re: Connection repeatedly dropping

Cable Modem EuroDOCSIS 3.0 Compliant
Serial Number 4831XXXXXXXXX
Boot Code Version PSPU-Boot 1.0.20.1391
Software Version V1.01.11
Hardware Version 1.03
CA Key Installed

My model is a Super Hub VMDG490. Looks to be a Netgear, and came with the GPL license information, but I can't find the *complete* source code anywhere so I can't even dig in to what may be happening myself.

What are the usual timeframes on these kind of fixes? I can be on another ISP by the end of the week...

Sam

---------- Post added at 18:28 ---------- Previous post was at 18:25 ----------

Looks like I am on a Superhub 2ac. Sorry for not being clear

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Re: Connection repeatedly dropping

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Here is my routing information. My IP is:

82.14.218.xxx

Code:
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
default         cpc3-croy21-2-0 0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth1
default         precise.sam 0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0
82.14.216.0     *               255.255.252.0   U     0      0        0 eth1
localnet        *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
192.168.122.0   *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 virbr0
and I added the following ifup.d rule to add the correct routing information, because it seems it has never been acquired from DHCP since I've been using this box in 2012.

Code:
	post-up route add default gw 82.14.218.1
	pre-down route del default gw 82.14.218.1
What makes you think that 82.14.218.1 is a gateway - it's not; just some poor person on the same subnet as you that you are trying to send all your traffic via ...

cpc3-croy21-2-0-cust512.19-2.cable.virginm.net [82.14.218.1]

Your gateway is 82.14.216.1 (note your subnet mask - 255.255.252.0)

You can also see that one of your default routes is set correctly at this (cpc3-croy21-2-0-gw.19-2.cable.virginm.net)
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Re: Connection repeatedly dropping

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What makes you think that 82.14.218.1 is a gateway - it's not; just some poor person on the same subnet as you that you are trying to send all you traffic via ...

cpc3-croy21-2-0-cust512.19-2.cable.virginm.net [82.14.218.1]

Your gateway is 82.14.216.1 (note your subnet mask - 255.255.252.0)
Good spot: I will change my route add rule to mark that as the default gateway and see how things go.

Sam

---------- Post added at 19:34 ---------- Previous post was at 19:22 ----------

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You can also see that one of your default routes is set correctly at this (cpc3-croy21-2-0-gw.19-2.cable.virginm.net)
That is the route that I manually added....

route -n shows:

82.14.218.1 which resolves to cpc3-croy21-2-0-gw.19-2.cable.virginm.net

That route does not show as default unless I manually add with route add default gw...

Sam
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Re: Connection repeatedly dropping

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Good spot: I will change my route add rule to mark that as the default gateway and see how things go.

Sam

---------- Post added at 19:34 ---------- Previous post was at 19:22 ----------



That is the route that I manually added....

route -n shows:

82.14.218.1 which resolves to cpc3-croy21-2-0-gw.19-2.cable.virginm.net

That route does not show as default unless I manually add with route add default gw...

Sam
... not up here in the North it doesn't ...

Name: cpc3-croy21-2-0-gw.19-2.cable.virginm.net
Address: 82.14.216.1

How are you performing the lookup? (host entry?)
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Re: Connection repeatedly dropping

I have muddled my above post. 216.1 is correctly resolving to the gateway.

I changed the default routes, and I am still online. I'll see what happens overnight..

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Re: Connection repeatedly dropping

routing stuff aside, the power levels you posted are absolutely fine and the tech was referring to T3 and T4 timeouts of which you have none.
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Yes it's stable now.

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