Crackdown on 'rich' council house tenants

[Arthurgray50@blu]

This whole business finally convinces me that Osborne hates the ordinary man in the street.

First they bring out the evil Bedroom Tax, now they bring out this. Its another way of getting back to people who have got a council house, made some money and earn a lot of money - what is wrong with that.

Osborne deserves to be put up against a wall and read the riot act, by the millions of people that he has made misery of

Why doesn't he just bring out Mansion Tax - for people that live in large houses and have rooms that wont be used.

Its always the normal Joe blogs in the street that he hits. If l lose my job tomorrow which can happen - l have been edge for the past few years with cuts looming. I have an extra room - I will have to pay Bedroom Tax

If he brought out in the budget that he will increase taxes for the rich. That would ease the pain - but l bet he wont

Osborne and Cameron are multi millionaires, so money is not object.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by martyh

the more you earn the more you pay ,

No mod edit?

That's usually how it works?

Pay the market rate. If you don't like it mod editoff and the pay the market rate elsewhere. Stop bleating and get on with it.

[Stephen]

may you all be reminded of the forum rules over language. Keep calm please otherwise there will be trouble

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

This whole business finally convinces me that Osborne hates the ordinary man in the street.

First they bring out the evil Bedroom Tax, now they bring out this. Its another way of getting back to people who have got a council house, made some money and earn a lot of money - what is wrong with that.

Osborne deserves to be put up against a wall and read the riot act, by the millions of people that he has made misery of

Why doesn't he just bring out Mansion Tax - for people that live in large houses and have rooms that wont be used.

Its always the normal Joe blogs in the street that he hits. If l lose my job tomorrow which can happen - l have been edge for the past few years with cuts looming. I have an extra room - I will have to pay Bedroom Tax

If he brought out in the budget that he will increase taxes for the rich. That would ease the pain - but l bet he wont

Osborne and Cameron are multi millionaires, so money is not object.

no he hates the fact that a large % of them are on state subsidies and wont leave the nanny states teat and stand on their own two feet .

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

no he hates the fact that a large % of them are on state subsidies and wont leave the nanny states teat and stand on their own two feet .

If he does not succeed then we'll all be bled dry.

[Gary L]

This is just a bit of encouragement by the government to get them to stand on their own 2 feet.

a bit like the unemployed. (get out and get a job push) but (get out and get your own house and give the council one back to those less well off than you)

[Stop It]

Originally Posted by martyh

What about the tens of thousands needed for deposits since the crash ,what about age ,it takes people years to save deposits but according to your rules they should leave the council house that is their home ,that they probably have children living in and going to the local school and move out to a private rent with no security all because you don't like the idea of someone in a council house doing as well as you in life .There is a name for people with your attitude ,just can't say it on a family forum

So are you saying that I and many others should subsidise those lucky enough to live in a council house, paying below market rates despite earning enough to pay them?

I live in private rented housing, and have done for years. I do not earn a huge wage, and frankly find it a bit much for people to want to literally take from others in similar situations just based on who owns the house they rent from.

Everybody would love to have a little bit extra to save for a house, but that should not be a subsidy from taxpayers for some, while others have to not only pay for them, but face being unable to save themselves because of the disparity in rents.

Social housing should be provided for people in need, and assistance with rents to those whose standards of living would be too low otherwise, not to fund a deposit or enhance peoples lifestyles beyond that which the average working family can achieve in the private sector.

Also, name calling isn't on, argue the ideas, not the person as your attitude can easily be seen as a classic case of rent seeking.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Gary L

This is just a bit of encouragement by the government to get them to stand on their own 2 feet.

a bit like the unemployed. (get out and get a job push) but (get out and get your own house and give the council one back to those less well off than you)

yes its an attempt to get the suckler's off the nanny states teat. too many people "can't save for a mortgage" or move on because it inhibits their ability to buy fags booze and 60" tv's ,so the comfort blanket provided by the local council only serves to keep the cycle of suckling the life out of the economy alive and kicking

Originally Posted by Pierre

No mod edit?

That's usually how it works?

Pay the market rate. If you don't like it mod editoff and the pay the market rate elsewhere. Stop bleating and get on with it.

Another brainless post by Pierre

I suppose if Osborne decided you should pay more for your mortgage simply because you earn more than the bloke next door you wouldn't be upset in the slightest

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Originally Posted by Stop It

So are you saying that I and many others should subsidise those lucky enough to live in a council house, paying below market rates despite earning enough to pay them?

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Explain how my rent is subsidised

I live in private rented housing, and have done for years. I do not earn a huge wage, and frankly find it a bit much for people to want to literally take from others in similar situations just based on who owns the house they rent from.

Explain what I am taking from others

Everybody would love to have a little bit extra to save for a house, but that should not be a subsidy from taxpayers for some, while others have to not only pay for them, but face being unable to save themselves because of the disparity in rents.

I've been subsidising people through my taxes for 30yrs

Social housing should be provided for people in need, and assistance with rents to those whose standards of living would be too low otherwise, not to fund a deposit or enhance peoples lifestyles beyond that which the average working family can achieve in the private sector

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Rubbish ,that has never been the intention of social housing and never will be ,social housing was built to house workers not to segregate 1 section of society from the rest ,that happened a lot in the 60's and 70's and ended up with slum dwellings ,the very thing social housing was meant to get rid of ,now we have social housing open to everyone mixed with private housing a much better arrangement.I lived in private rented houses for years and wouldn't thank you for it ,no security ,poor maintenance and high energy bills,now I have security (that's housing security for dum and dummers benefit) and a well maintained house for my £110 p/w

Also, name calling isn't on, argue the ideas, not the person as your attitude can easily be seen as a classic case of rent seeking

If I get insulted to the extent that Bulky and smurf did I will retaliate ,although what that's got to do with you I don't know

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by martyh

some more brainless posts by me

I suppose if Osborne decided you should pay more for your mortgage simply because you earn more than the bloke next door you wouldn't be upset in the slightest

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Explain how my rent is subsidised



Explain what I am taking from others



I've been subsidising people through my taxes for 30yrs

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Rubbish ,that has never been the intention of social housing and never will be ,social housing was built to house workers not to segregate 1 section of society from the rest ,that happened a lot in the 60's and 70's and ended up with slum dwellings ,the very thing social housing was meant to get rid of ,now we have social housing open to everyone mixed with private housing a much better arrangement.I lived in private rented houses for years and wouldn't thank you for it ,no security ,poor maintenance and high energy bills,now I have security (that's housing security for dum and dummers benefit) and a well maintained house for my £110 p/w



If I get insulted to the extent that Bulky and smurf did I will retaliate ,although what that's got to do with you I don't know

insults? what insults

Originally Posted by papa smurf

insults? what insults

Seriously?

You suggested I move to better myself ,not only insulting me but the thousands of decent hard working council tenants just like me ,you suggested I am a sponger because I live in a council house and pay full rent with no state assistance at all ,I'm surprised you haven't thrown in racist as well ,that's your usual trick when someone doesn't agree with you especially over your love affair with Farage

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by martyh

Seriously?

You suggested I move to better myself ,not only insulting me but the thousands of decent hard working council tenants just like me ,you suggested I am a sponger because I live in a council house and pay full rent with no state assistance at all ,I'm surprised you haven't thrown in racist as well ,that's your usual trick when someone doesn't agree with you especially over your love affair with Farage

well i'm just flabbergasted i only asked why do you not move to a better private area if the cost is equal to your council house rent, and i don't believe i used the term scrounger , and as for throwing in racist and your rant about Farage the mind just boggles .

Originally Posted by papa smurf

well i'm just flabbergasted i only asked why do you not move to a better private area if the cost is equal to your council house rent, and i don't believe i used the term scrounger , and as for throwing in racist and your rant about Farage the mind just boggles .

What the feck do you think is wrong with my area that's the 3rd time you suggested I move to a better area all you know is that it is a council estate ,that tells me you are extremely prejudiced against those who live on council estates,just because you grew up in a **** hole doesn't mean we all did ,now take your horrible prejudiced attitude and do one

and as for throwing in racist and your rant about Farage the mind just boggles

Maybe the warning that Damien gave you might jog your memory.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by martyh

What the feck do you think is wrong with my area that's the 3rd time you suggested I move to a better area all you know is that it is a council estate ,that tells me you are extremely prejudiced against those who live on council estates,just because you grew up in a **** hole doesn't mean we all did ,now take your horrible prejudiced attitude and do one




Maybe the warning that Damien gave you might jog your memory.

martyh martyh martyh calm down i only asked why you lived where you do when the rent elsewhere is the same maybe they wont let you keep the sofa on the front lawn on a private estate who knows -"do one" ? is that chav slang for something ?? i really don't understand your aggressive tone towards me you seem to take issue at every thing i post is it that you are prejudiced towards me for some reason .

re Damien what warning ?

[vanman]

Originally Posted by Gary L

This is just a bit of encouragement by the government to get them to stand on their own 2 feet.

a bit like the unemployed. (get out and get a job push) but (get out and get your own house and give the council one back to those less well off than you)

yes your right but
if some council house tenants are force to pay market rates
the best option for them is to use the right to buy.
and if that happens there will be no council houses to give back