Crackdown on 'rich' council house tenants

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by martyh

Which would be the profit component which until recently councils where not allowed to make .£45 per week is probably about the extra she will be charged on her rent when the government allow the council to make a profit on her rent so that means saving for deposits will become even harder as if they aren't hard enough

Between them my daughter and her husband they don't even hit £20000 a year

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by techguyone

Bitter much? The council have a duty to maintain their properties, like I said, the tenant won't get the benefit of the solar panels, the Council will, plus they're maintaining the property, are they supposed to not maintain the property of anyone who has an expensive car in their drive?

the point is that the cost of that expensive car could pay for the deposit on a mortgage and free up the social housing for those in need .

[techguyone]

Doesn't take away the fact the houses have to be maintained - regardless of whos living in them.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by techguyone

Doesn't take away the fact the houses have to be maintained - regardless of whos living in them.

doesn't take away the fact that someone with £60,000 worth of cars on the drive doesn't need a council house hence the crackdown

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by peanut

The argument is that if you're on that kind of money you should be able to afford to get a mortgage and not be in social housing as it's for those that need it.

What about people like me.

I cannot afford a mortgage in my town, I cannot even get on the council list, (Immigrants don't help) and private prices are beyond a joke a week in Florida is cheaper.

So have to live at home, and my parents are retired and get SFA extra because I work and earn more than the system allows.

[Bulky]

Originally Posted by techguyone

Bitter much? The council have a duty to maintain their properties, like I said, the tenant won't get the benefit of the solar panels, the Council will, plus they're maintaining the property, are they supposed to not maintain the property of anyone who has an expensive car in their drive?

Bitter yes , although at least I'm not throwing my money down the drain I suppose. I thought council tenants were supposed to be in need of housing because they couldn't afford a house but then go and spend £60000 on cars ?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Bulky

Bitter yes , although at least I'm not throwing my money down the drain I suppose. I thought council tenants were supposed to be in need of housing because they couldn't afford a house but then go and spend £60000 on cars ?

To be fair. they could be leasing it for around £600 a month

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Gary L

To be fair. they could be leasing it for around £600 a month

Frees up the money for the 60" 4K TV and those garish Xmas displays.

[Bulky]

Originally Posted by Gary L

To be fair. they could be leasing it for around £600 a month

Exacly lol

[peanut]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

What about people like me.

I cannot afford a mortgage in my town, I cannot even get on the council list, (Immigrants don't help) and private prices are beyond a joke a week in Florida is cheaper.

So have to live at home, and my parents are retired and get SFA extra because I work and earn more than the system allows.

I totally sympathise with you and others in the same predicament. The same for all the young as well. I really don't have any idea what's going to happen. I think it's going to get a lot worse too when 'right to buy' with LHA too which I think is also wrong, I don't believe they'll rebuilt like for like as they say they will.

My wife and I only have a 1 bedroom LHA flat, the wife works full time and I can't work and don't have good long term prospects but we really appreciate what we've got even though we've both had mortgages in the past.

I know that we're surrounded by well off pensioners here, all have 3 bedroom houses, most are living on their own and all Housing Assc paying nearly the same as we're paying for our flat. Because they aren't touched (pensioners) they have no incentive to downsize.

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It seems when we're talking about people that live in council houses then with the sum of £30,000 you're classed as rich but in a negative way. When it comes to hitting those on £35,000 to £70,000 (child support) you're classed a middle classed but in a positive way.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Frees up the money for the 60" 4K TV and those garish Xmas displays.

Oh you do love your stereotypes old boy.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by peanut

It seems when we're talking about people that live in council houses then with the sum of £30,000 you're classed as rich but in a negative way. When it comes to hitting those on £35,000 to £70,000 (child support) you're classed a middle classed but in a positive way.

Very true.
the interesting thing is how we all turn against each other without thinking about it. this is the new UK.
we never used to be like it. we all got along quite nicely till Dave played his mind games on us.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by denphone

Oh you do love your stereotypes old boy.

They exist because they're true.

Take a walk through the local council estate (Take a friend ) at Xmas time, it's ghastly and the big screens are prominently displayed curtains un drawn so that you can see them from the street. That is until TVL hit town.

[denphone]

A small minority is not representative of the majority on estates thus its unfair to stereotype everybody.

Originally Posted by Bulky

What is to be confused about , the council paid to have nice new roofs put on people's property's who have £60000 worth of cars on the drive

No they did not ,the solar panels you mentioned are paid for by central government and the F.I.T. goes to the council all part of the governments emission targets

If you are wondering how councils have been able to afford to do this, then this is largely due to the government's Feed in Tariff scheme. Usually a home owner who purchases a solar PV system will benefit from reduced energy costs and payments from the FIT. In the case of council properties, the tenant will still save on electricity but the Feed in Tariff will go back to the company that paid for the installation, i.e. the council themselves

http://www.theecoexperts.co.uk/council-solar-panels

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

your obviously happy having the state house you and pay for upgrades at the expense of those less well off and desperately in need of accommodation, but if your happy i guess that's all that matters after all its your god given right to have a state funded home no matter how much you earn , i wonder what you could achieve if you had a little ambition .

Actually ,yes it is my right to have a council house ,as it is yours and any other British citizen ,and how is that at the expense of anyone or state funded when I pay full rent and receive no benefits whatsoever .Once again your pathetic and rather nasty prejudices are showing

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Between them my daughter and her husband they don't even hit £20000 a year

Shouldn't be affected then ,just don't tell Papa Smurf you have a working relative living in council accommodation

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

doesn't take away the fact that someone with £60,000 worth of cars on the drive doesn't need a council house hence the crackdown

The government isn't forcing people to move out ,of course if you read the link instead of letting your prejudices rule your brain you would know that.People with £60,000 cars in the drive will still be able to live in the houses because no one has the right to remove them .....even you