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Re: Balls free gratis
Perhaps more organisations like the OBR that can shine a light on what is really going on.
I did like that during the election the PM program referred politicians claims on expenditure, revenues etc to the "more or less" team from R4 for in-depth analysis - most revealing.
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19-06-2015, 10:08
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Re: Balls free gratis
We need someone to tell us because I don't think the public's trust/confidence in our glorious leaders has ever been lower. Has anyone got any 'official' figures for that?
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19-06-2015, 10:35
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Re: Balls free gratis
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We need someone to tell us because I don't think the public's trust/confidence in our glorious leaders has ever been lower. Has anyone got any 'official' figures for that?
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These long term trends remind us that the crisis of trust in politicians is nothing new – we were measuring similarly low levels of trust over 30 years ago. But that doesn’t make it any less serious a challenge, particularly as we come up to an election that will be fiercely fought.
This long-running study also shows that trust levels are not fixed, and do shift as the context changes – which is seen particularly in the increasing trust in scientists and civil servants and decreasing trust in the clergy. ”
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19-06-2015, 11:48
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Re: Balls free gratis
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So does that mean you were unhappy with Alastair Darling and Gordon Brown as Chancellors, or doesn't their lack of economic qualifications count?
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Why are you fixated with Labour Chancellors? It's the one we have had for the last 5 years that I am worried about
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19-06-2015, 11:54
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Why are you fixated with Labour Chancellors? It's the one we have had for the last 5 years that I am worried about
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Because you were fixated on the fact that the current Chancellor did not have any economic qualifications....
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At least Ed Balls has a qualification in Economics. Does Osbourne have one? and if not, are we worried he has control over our economy and is taking the country to a controversial place economically speaking? I am ..
It's like going on a road trip with someone who has not passed their driving test 
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So I asked if you were equally worried about the fact that the last two Labour Chancellors and the current Labour Shadow Chancellor did not have any economic qualifications either, and weren't you worried they took*/were going to take the country to a controversial place economically speaking?
But you appear to think there is one set of requirements for a Conservative Chancellor, and a different set of requirements for Labour Chancellors / Shadow Chancellors......
*(Well, we know the answer to that question, don't we...)
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19-06-2015, 12:11
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Re: Balls free gratis
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Thanks for that.
I'm sure mobile communications and the internet also have something to do with it. It's so much easier for any indiscretions, ill-judged comments, mistakes to be exposed and publicised nationally and internationally. These things always went on but weren't so widely known so reputations that would be destroyed now more often remained untarnished in the past.
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19-06-2015, 12:45
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Re: Balls free gratis
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Because you were fixated on the fact that the current Chancellor did not have any economic qualifications....
So I asked if you were equally worried about the fact that the last two Labour Chancellors and the current Labour Shadow Chancellor did not have any economic qualifications either, and weren't you worried they took*/were going to take the country to a controversial place economically speaking?
But you appear to think there is one set of requirements for a Conservative Chancellor, and a different set of requirements for Labour Chancellors / Shadow Chancellors......
*(Well, we know the answer to that question, don't we...)
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Nice to see you ask a question and then answer it yourself. Saves me the trouble. Enjoy your Tory Chancer .. Chancellor ..
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19-06-2015, 15:51
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I will, thanks.....
Ed Balls had all the qualifications for Chance(llo)r except the most important one - being an MP....
Democracy in action...
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19-06-2015, 17:06
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Thank the Lord...
He could so easily have been Chancellor and now he's researching stability in the US. Phew!
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19-06-2015, 23:15
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Re: Balls free gratis
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I will, thanks.....
Ed Balls had all the qualifications for Chance(llo)r except the most important one - being an MP....
Democracy in action...
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Come back in 5 years and then tell me your happy.
24% of the electorate .. Democracy in action!
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20-06-2015, 07:53
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Come back in 5 years and then tell me your happy.
24% of the electorate .. Democracy in action!
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2 million more votes than Labour, and more votes than Labour gathered when they won in 2001 and 2005 - so yes, democracy in action.
Nice to see sour grapes ares still in season.....
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20-06-2015, 08:24
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Re: Balls free gratis
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2 million more votes than Labour, and more votes than Labour gathered when they won in 2001 and 2005 - so yes, democracy in action.
Nice to see sour grapes ares still in season..... 
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Nope the grapes are nice and sweet thanks
24% of the electorate gives Dave and George a mandate to take the country into the abyss ..
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20-06-2015, 11:11
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Yes, because there was no previous Labour/Abyss interface scenario.......
Under the election rules that you never complained about until Labour lost, the Conservatives won - you can either suck it up, or keep crying "wah, wah - it's not fair..".
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20-06-2015, 13:08
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Re: Balls free gratis
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God only knows what can be done about it. 
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What you need is a benevolent dictatorship. Not sure if such a thing has ever existed.
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20-06-2015, 15:00
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What you need is a benevolent dictatorship. Not sure if such a thing has ever existed.
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Well I like to think I operate one at home...
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