120M : Virgin upload future?

[Sephiroth]

Just to keep everything in correct perspective, upstream speed available (on a properly capacity planned basis) will depend on the number of provisioned upstream channels. From what we already know about VM upstream performances as reported by users, 2 x upstream channels would be struggling at 20 or 24 meg once users get cracking on it.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

To be fair, that's pretty much guaranteed to be correct given that at least some of VM's network was already capable of 1.5Gbps in 2011

By that I also meant that it would have enough lit capacity to release such a service if required, not just that if allocated enough bandwidth on the SPA and eQAM it could be.

[apb27]

I'll have finished my initial crashplan backup of 18TB by the time they upgrade the pathetic upload speeds :/

[Ignitionnet]

As good a reason as any why they don't want to bust a gut upgrading them.

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by iNvidious01

I'll have finished my initial crashplan backup of 18TB by the time they upgrade the pathetic upload speeds :/

Hah, I switch my connection over to 4G these days when my Steam is cloud sync'ing my saves, 50Mbps upload on my phone vs. 0.5Mbps on the ADSL...

[Kushan]

How big are your save files, qas? Or I suppose I should be asking what game you're playing. I can't say I've noticed any issues with steam cloud syncing, probably one of the few steam features that just worked out the door for me.

[qasdfdsaq]

Cities Skylines. The savefiles are between 5MB and 15MB each and I often save 20 times or more during one gaming session. Plus for some reason the screenshots are 50MB o_0. So that's a good 100-200MB each time I quit the game, i.e. half an hour uploading on my 0.5Mbps ADSL.

[Kushan]

Quality game! I admit I've not played as much of it as I'd have liked so I never noticed the save file sizes. I wonder why they're so big, I suspect they're using some terrible serialization or haven't compressed them for the sake of performance.

I don't like the way it integrates its saves to Steam cloud (I would prefer it just kept all saves in the cloud rather than "Selectively" doing it), but I guess it's something to do with limited cloud save space.

Awesome game, though.

[sollp]

Originally Posted by MagicUK

Thanks everyone for feedback and information regarding the future of virgin/liberty group, so in a pure unbiased point of few would you commit for the next 18 months to virgin 156/12 or an 80/20 service? Again 18 months, what I would say is I pay £48 for xl tv tivo plus v+hd box plus unlimited landline, it's an old friens family deal plus pay the line rental upfront for the year. Also just to mention happy with 12mb upload, any relaxing in the STM maybe before speed increases ha

My experience with the 76 and 20 service from BT isn't impressive at all. As we all know the limitations of the BT networK is limiting the speeds. For example im paying the BT infinity2 product which im approx 700-800m from the cabinet,(thats being generous) my line is capable of 68Mb, the router actually connects approx 52-57Mb and at present when conducting a speed test im getting between 51-53Mb. Upload anywhere between 12-16Mb.

Now after complaining to BT last week about another issue i happen to mention the speeds ect im getting only to be told that if my speeds are between 50-68Mb they consider this good and no issue. After a lengthy discussion where i pointed out the this was a very wide window and wasn't happy only to be told that that is in the contract and they will not and DO budge on this.

So Virginmedia customers would put up with this, not they wouldn't

[MagicUK]

Originally Posted by sollp

My experience with the 76 and 20 service from BT isn't impressive at all. As we all know the limitations of the BT networK is limiting the speeds. For example im paying the BT infinity2 product which im approx 700-800m from the cabinet,(thats being generous) my line is capable of 68Mb, the router actually connects approx 52-57Mb and at present when conducting a speed test im getting between 51-53Mb. Upload anywhere between 12-16Mb.

Now after complaining to BT last week about another issue i happen to mention the speeds ect im getting only to be told that if my speeds are between 50-68Mb they consider this good and no issue. After a lengthy discussion where i pointed out the this was a very wide window and wasn't happy only to be told that that is in the contract and they will not and DO budge on this.

So Virginmedia customers would put up with this, not they wouldn't

I think the cabinet might be close when activated so I'm hoping for top speeds but obv won't know, I think for the time being im gonna go with virgin for the next 18months and hopefully in that time STM is relaxed on upload as even at 12mb still more than enough, it's when it drops after an hour at weekends and evenings but we will see what both are offering in 18months!

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by MagicUK

I think the cabinet might be close when activated so I'm hoping for top speeds but obv won't know, I think for the time being im gonna go with virgin for the next 18months and hopefully in that time STM is relaxed on upload as even at 12mb still more than enough, it's when it drops after an hour at weekends and evenings but we will see what both are offering in 18months!

You can get an estimate of speed here https://www.btwholesale.com/includes...cs_adslchecker

If you don't already have a BT phone then the address checker is more accurate than the postcode checker.

Obviously it won't show anything but an estimated date until the cab goes live.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by MagicUK

I think the cabinet might be close when activated so I'm hoping for top speeds but obv won't know, I think for the time being im gonna go with virgin for the next 18months and hopefully in that time STM is relaxed on upload as even at 12mb still more than enough, it's when it drops after an hour at weekends and evenings but we will see what both are offering in 18months!

I'm on Infinity 2 and live very close to the cab , my service has been rock solid and synced at full ever since install.

[Sephiroth]

I'm on Infinity 2 as well as VM 152. I'm 300m from the copper cabinet & 298m from the FTTC cabinet. I get around 55/10 and that's all due to the Aluminium u/g leg. I want BT to re-pull that as copper. Big battle.

Now, when BT put their fibre/DSLAM on the nearby pole .....

[MagicUK]

Don't wanna run side by side as too much cost unless I get a dual wan router, suggestions ha Don't think she would approve, as I say 12mbs with no stm is fine, fingers crossed 24mb upload comes on top tier then no benefit to go fttc offering unless I'm moving to a virgin congested area, no reports on official forums but il have my broadband monitor running for the first few weeks to see if theres any spikes ha! If virgin did increase upload then there would be no benefit going FTTC as downloads are already faster, it's going to be an interesting 18months.

[General Maximus]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I'm on Infinity 2 as well as VM 152. I'm 300m from the copper cabinet & 298m from the FTTC cabinet. I get around 55/10 and that's all due to the Aluminium u/g leg. I want BT to re-pull that as copper.

I don't know how far I am from the cabinet but my speed estimate used to be the same as yours for donkeys but I have just used the link posted above and also checked the BT website and it reckons I can get 64/18. I would defo appreciate the extra few mbits in upload speed but I am not willing to sacrifice the huge drop in downstream. It would be like time travelling and going back 7 years.