V+ : TiVo

Originally Posted by Stephen

Why are you so sure it's the TiVo box? The TiVo cannot put your tv in stand by.

You have already been told the TiVo cannot control the stand by directly.

As mentioned it could be anything from a dodgy connector faulty hdmi, energy saving bulb or some other interference.

Fine Stephen, but the TiVo can put the TV into Standby - the remote is part of the TiVo circuit and by pressing the Standby button on the remote the TiVo does put the TV into Standby. If the remote can do it by sending a signal to the box, so can the box itself do it if there is some malfunction or incompatibility in the circuit.

Do remember what I said in my last post, which emphasises the engineers immortal motto - If it ain`t broke, don`t fix it and fitting a new part in a system conforms to that rule.

It is nothing to do with any kind of bulbs in my room.

I am happy with what I said in my last post, so let us leave the matter at that. Thanks.

[jb66]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Why are you so sure it's the TiVo box? The TiVo cannot put your tv in stand by.

You have already been told the TiVo cannot control the stand by directly.

As mentioned it could be anything from a dodgy connector faulty hdmi, energy saving bulb or some other interference.

Some people want the fault to be something other than their own equipment that much all logic flies out the window

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by Wittmann

Fine Stephen, but the TiVo can put the TV into Standby - the remote is part of the TiVo circuit and by pressing the Standby button on the remote the TiVo does put the TV into Standby. If the remote can do it by sending a signal to the box, so can the box itself do it if there is some malfunction or incompatibility in the circuit.

When you do a long press on the standby button the signal is going directly from the remote to the TV. The TiVo plays no part in this. (If you want, you can prove this to yourself by turning the TiVo off at the mains - you'll see you can still control the TV)

In theory, the TiVo *could* do it using CEC, but it appears your TV doesn't support CEC. Nor is it implemented in the TiVo software.

Originally Posted by spiderplant

When you do a long press on the standby button the signal is going directly from the remote to the TV. The TiVo plays no part in this. (If you want, you can prove this to yourself by turning the TiVo off at the mains - you'll see you can still control the TV)

In theory, the TiVo *could* do it using CEC, but it appears your TV doesn't support CEC. Nor is it implemented in the TiVo software.

Fine Spider, you are always so logical and explanatory in what you say.

Engineers do not tell other engineers anything, they make suggestions. That is an expression which provokes, not you but others.
My HD connections are perfect.

My post No.166 is final.

---------- Post added at 10:12 ---------- Previous post was at 10:08 ----------

Originally Posted by jb66

Some people want the fault to be something other than their own equipment that much all logic flies out the window

And some people want a problem to be anybody elses other than their own. TOUCHÉ.
It is the easy way out

---------- Post added at 10:18 ---------- Previous post was at 10:12 ----------

Look, unless somebody comes up with some sensible solution like Spider invariably does, this thread is finished. I am not here to argue, just to find a solution to a problem. Further argy-bargy is a waste of time. My post 166 is final.

So unless some blockbusting post has a logical bearing on the subject, that is me out and finished. Auf Wiedersehen.

[Stop It]

Well, if that's how you want to act, fine, but consider this.

All you have done up until now is asked people to confirm your own diagnosis that the TiVo may be at fault, and refused to consider any other factors in play. You clearly aren't looking for help, but a pat on the back for being "right". The fact is that the TiVo could be the harbinger of doom that your TV was always going to suffer.

Unless if you have a professional TV testing kit, you cannot say for sure that your "HD connections" are perfect, as they have a tendency to go, especially after a long service life that your TV has had. Nor have you discounted the possibility, or told us as such if you did, of a plain old cable fault by trying a different HDMI cable to connect the TiVo to the TV.

A TV going into standby on it's own implies an electrical interference issue, or a TV suffering a fault that goes into standby to avoid catastrophic failure. Without ability to see your TVs service menu or any diagnostics, it's impossible to say for sure what is causing it, which is why I suggested to remove the TiVo from the equation for now. If it stops the standby issue, I'd be changing the HDMI cable, trying a different connection method (Another HDMI port or SCART) and then, and only then, suspecting the TiVo equipment.

Fault diagnosis is always a process of elimination, not blaming something until proven otherwise.

I have thanked everybody for their comments, but unless there is a positive breakthrough, my posts 166 and 169 are final.

[jb66]

What about 171?

[Stop It]

I'm afraid that unless if you're actually expecting anyone here to be able to tell you exactly what's going on, a physical impossibility given the intermittent nature of your problem and one that may have multiple causes, that you're not going to get a more positive answer or at least not what you expect to hear.

I wish you good luck.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Wittmann

I have thanked everybody for their comments, but unless there is a positive breakthrough, my posts 166 and 169 are final.

Final for who exactly??

It has been mentioned by at least three people(myself included) that your TiVo is not and cannot be causing the TV to go into standby. It WILL be an electrical issue or other issue such as faulty HMDI cable or socket, the TV itself having the power supply interrupted. The TiVo remote is seperate from the box and any signal comes direct from said remote and cannot issue a command unless the buttons are pressed.

However you are insistent that the TiVo is at fault and not willing to take advice, which you came and asked for as to the causes of the problem.

[devilincarnate]

It could be the power supply overheating?
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=511136

[Mad Max]

I think he needs a new TV!

[devilincarnate]

Recognizing Overheating
Most televisions switch off automatically when they begin to overheat. Once this overheating mechanism triggers, the television will not turn on again until it has cooled. When a television begins to overheat, it can cause smoking and components of the television begin to warp and melt, potentially ruining the television. Even mild overheating is uncomfortable to the touch and can distort the screen or the delicate hardware within the television and render it unusable.



Read more : http://www.ehow.com/info_12183054_ov...ng-lcd-tv.html

Just an update.

My Tivo has put the TV onto Standby 6 times in 5 hours. i placed tiVo onto Standby and changed the source from HDMI to DTV. TiVo being disconnected and the signal to my TV coming from my roof aerial, not Cable to provide my excellent quality and consistent DTV service.

Result after 13 hours of DTV - NO Standby, NO fault ! So my TV is working perfectly, just as it did for 7 years with V+. Went back onto TiVo and up comes the Standby fault again within half an hour.

TV - faultless. TiVo - has a fault.

The matter is in good, responsible hands and I expect the existing TiVo box to be changed.

So the irresponsible posters who glibly told me to dump a perfectly good TV and spend £800 on a new TV, know absolutely nothing about either TV`s or TiVo.

I suggest they refrain from posting any more replies to people who need help.

[GrimUpNorth]

I know I said I wouldn't offer any more suggestions but have you tried a different device on the HDMI socket just to rule that out?

Cheers

GRIM

[Stephen]

And others have suggested you need to try a different HDMI cable and/or a different HDMI device on the HDMI socket to rule out any fault with the cable or socket. Or even connect the TiVo to a different HDMI socket on your TV.

As mentioned TiVo can't put a TV in standby.