Superhub 200Mbit coming soon? (According to a survey) - Page 16

Kushan · 19-03-2015, 13:07

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Originally Posted by pip08456

I wouldn't hold you're breath on that one. BT are going to be trialing G.fast this summer in 2 areas.

"The two pilots will start this summer in Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire and Gosforth, Newcastle. Around 4,000 homes and businesses will be able to participate in the pilots which will explore what speeds can be delivered using G.fast at scale."

Roll out to begin 2016/7

scource http://www.btplc.com/Innovation/Inno...fast/index.htm

Good point about G.fast. It'll be interesting to see what advertised speeds that ends up with, as that's what Virgin targets. It can do gigabit in theory, but I can't see it ever being advertised as such.

qasdfdsaq · 19-03-2015, 14:39

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Originally Posted by Kushan

Good point about G.fast. It'll be interesting to see what advertised speeds that ends up with, as that's what Virgin targets. It can do gigabit in theory, but I can't see it ever being advertised as such.

500Mbps apparently:

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The national telecoms operator, BT, has today delivered an earlier than expected surprise by announcing their intention to deploy the next generation hybrid-fibre G.fast (ITU G.9701) broadband technology across the United Kingdom from 2016/17, with “most homes” told to expect speeds of ‘up to’ 500Mbps (Megabits per second)

Should also make 1000Mbps FTTPoD a lot cheaper too. But they expect it'll take 10 years to complete rollout.

Sephiroth · 19-03-2015, 15:36

What does "most homes" mean? Those with copper-aluminium-copper runs to the cabinet?

qasdfdsaq · 19-03-2015, 15:42

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

What does "most homes" mean? Those with copper-aluminium-copper runs to the cabinet?

Same as "most homes" that get FTTC service?

The cabinet run will be of less relevance now that it'll be FTTdP

Kushan · 19-03-2015, 15:56

I would expect that statement to be nothing less than the usual 51% can get this speed.

Still, if it means someone who'd previously get maybe 8meg on ADSL2 and 30Meg on FTTC can now get 200Meg, that's fine with me.

I really can't see there being a need for multi-hundred Mbps speeds on the downstream any time this decade. I could be wrong, but I just don't see anything beyond VoD pushing it.

qasdfdsaq · 19-03-2015, 16:19

Well 2025 isn't this decade.

Kabaal · 19-03-2015, 17:24

For me it's appeal is upstream. If it goes like it seems it will their upstream is going to be multiples of VM's, not just a few mbps faster. We can only hope they give us something special with 3.1 but it's far from a guarantee.

pip08456 · 20-03-2015, 20:40

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

What does "most homes" mean? Those with copper-aluminium-copper runs to the cabinet?

As the service will effectively do away with the cab as it is from the dp then one could hope that more homes will be served (proviso:- commercial viablity).

Effectively it would bring more homes into range of the DSLAM (on the dp)...ish

Sephiroth · 20-03-2015, 21:38

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Originally Posted by pip08456

As the service will effectively do away with the cab as it is from the dp then one could hope that more homes will be served (proviso:- commercial viablity).

Effectively it would bring more homes into range of the DSLAM (on the dp)...ish

Doesn't answer my question Pip. My telephone line (copper strung, aluminium u/g) goes to a ****** cabinet. Then of course to the FTTC cabinet.

So what will change at my home? And if the route remains the same, will my aluminium wire with its impedance mismatch no longer cause me to lose 40% of my upper limit DS speed and 55% of my upstream speed?

qasdfdsaq · 20-03-2015, 23:19

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Doesn't answer my question Pip. My telephone line (copper strung, aluminium u/g) goes to a ****** cabinet. Then of course to the FTTC cabinet.

A what?

A FTTdP line doesn't go to any cabinet.

pip08456 · 20-03-2015, 23:37

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

A what?

A FTTdP line doesn't go to any cabinet.

Correct. It boils down to the length from dp to premisis (or should that be premises).

Seph, the DSLAM is effectively at the dp.

Sephiroth · 21-03-2015, 00:24

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Correct. It boils down to the length from dp to premisis (or should that be premises).

Seph, the DSLAM is effectively at the dp.

I'm obviously missing the point. My question is centred on my installation.

Modem -> Copper overhead -> aluminium u/g (300m) -> Crappy cabinet --> FTTC cabinet.

What is going to change at MY installation? Will I get more speed from G.Fast?

pip08456 · 21-03-2015, 00:41

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I'm obviously missing the point. My question is centred on my installation.

Modem -> Copper overhead -> aluminium u/g (300m) -> Crappy cabinet --> FTTC cabinet.

What is going to change at MY installation? Will I get more speed from G.Fast?

Modem -> copper overhead -> dpDSLAM.

Speed depends on distance from dp. No more aluminium!

Effectively the DSLAM is pole mounted or that will be where the fibre termination point will be and copper from there.

I thought I'd reported on this 2 yrs ago after my visit to Adastral Park.

Sephiroth · 21-03-2015, 01:26

Ah - shows how little I know about these things. So the telephone will run over IP?

Looks like BT would have to spend billions to convert the likes of me.

qasdfdsaq · 21-03-2015, 02:25

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Effectively the DSLAM is pole mounted

Or basement in my case.