Virgin Media urges Sky to raise broadband prices

[tvtimes]

Originally Posted by japitts

But isn't that WiFi congestion, rather than broadband specifically?

It's still down to congestion, all the channels are maxed out.

[qasdfdsaq]

But that's nothing to do with Virgin Media and they have no control over it whatsoever.

[alanbjames]

Originally Posted by Chad

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...nd-prices.html

"Cable operator Virgin Media has risked a regulatory backlash by urging rivals to raise their broadband prices, arguing that consumers and businesses should pay more to fund investment in Britain’s internet infrastructure."

Dana Strong said: ": “I find it completely paradoxical and ironic that this is the sector where we’re promoting and advertising the notion of free broadband access. It’s creating an impression in our consumers’ minds, in businesses and government that broadband should be free."

"Virgin Media’s call for broadband prices to increase risks provoking the regulator, Ofcom, which touts the intense rivalry in the broadband market and reduction in prices in recent years as one its major successes. According to Ofcom figures, the average price of a broadband package was cut by nearly half between 2004 and 2012, partly as a result of regulatory intervention such as forcing BT to allow rivals to control its lines into homes and businesses."

Broadband in the future no doubt will become free but it wont be in our life time and if Putin has his way and WWIII erupts it would be in who ever is left alive lifetime either.

[djfunkdup]

Originally Posted by alanbjames

Broadband in the future no doubt will become free but it wont be in our life time and if Putin has his way and WWIII erupts it would be in who ever is left alive lifetime either.

L O L

That makes as much sense as an ash tray on a motorbike does

[tvtimes]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

But that's nothing to do with Virgin Media and they have no control over it whatsoever.

How do you figure?

Originally Posted by tvtimes

How do you figure?

Because you said

I have tried every wireless channel and they're all over subscribed.

VM don't control what wifi channel their customers select (or that of all the BT, Sky, and PlusNet customers in your vicinity), so how could they be responsible for the Wifi channels being over-subscribed?

[tvtimes]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Because you said VM don't control what wifi channel their customers select (or that of all the BT, Sky, and PlusNet customers in your vicinity), so how could they be responsible for the Wifi channels being over-subscribed?

There's too many customers in this area, that's how it's congested, there's not enough capacity to cater for everyone.

[Kushan]

Originally Posted by tvtimes

There's too many customers in this area, that's how it's congested, there's not enough capacity to cater for everyone.

And if all of those customers jump ship to BT or VM, their wireless will still be congesting your area because it has nothing to do with what ISP you use. VM don't buy wireless spectrum for your home, that's unlicensed spectrum in the 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz range that anyone can use.

It's not Virgin's fault and there's literally nothing they can do about it.

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Kushan

It's not Virgin's fault and there's literally nothing they can do about it.

[uber-pedant mode] Strictly speaking, VM were themselves the cause of large amounts of WiFi congestion in the past, firstly by having some of the heaviest users (which may still be true) but also by supplying a Superhub that originally was not WiFi compliant and caused twice as much interference as it should have. Furthermore, the original Superhub's 5Ghz channels were not DFS compliant so all of them were compressed onto just four channels in the 5Ghz band instead of spreading evenly across 19 channels. Both those factors have now been fixed, *but* they could still do more by moving everyone onto 802.11ad...

... Not

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Originally Posted by tvtimes

There's too many customers in this area, that's how it's congested, there's not enough capacity to cater for everyone.

There's plenty of capacity to cater for everyone, your equipment is just not using it properly.