European Terror Attacks

[Pierre]

I'm calling it a night on this one.

Some people should remember not to drink on a school night.

Goodnight.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

They were scared of posting the suggestion here themselves?

No idea, I didn't ask.

Originally Posted by Pierre

ha, spoken like a true "man" hiding behind a keyboard.

I'm not the one advocating a certain course of action "as long as it's someone else doing it and not me".

Originally Posted by Pierre

Defeat? Defeat of what? Who am I supposed to be fighting? You? You need to look yourself in the mirror and slap your face. You think I give a toss about you, I think you need to sit down in a dark room and re-evaluate your life.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

You really think setting up a few social media accounts with no views, no followers and no friends is an appropriate way of standing up to terrorism or free speech, if so I think Pierre might have got it about right in his last post after all.

You don't think it's worth the effort to back up your words with actions, that's fair enough. At least you had the testicular fortitude to say so unlike some.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

You are by suggesting we should run our lives around them and their potential reaction.

The people in the bakery didn't run any cartoons and considering Charlie Hebdo has been targeted before I suspect they had a pretty good idea it would happen again, the editor Stephane Charbonnier even said as much after the first attack three years ago and said the thought of it wouldn't stop his work.

Given the deaths that have resulted i wonder if he would still feel the same had he lived ,more to the point i wonder if the families of all those dead people feel as he did or are they acceptable losses in the fight to maintain someones right to print whatever the hell they like regardless of consequencies.

I reckon most if not all don't actually give a toss about the press' percieved right to print whatever they want ,they just want their loved ones back

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Russ

No firebombs (as per the example) or deaths suggests maybe they don't consider it as much of a jihad-worthy crime against Islam.

You are really reaching there m8.

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Originally Posted by martyh

Given the deaths that have resulted i wonder if he would still feel the same had he lived ,more to the point i wonder if the families of all those dead people feel as he did or are they acceptable losses in the fight to maintain someones right to print whatever the hell they like regardless of consequencies.

You are right. Lets roll over and go along with everything these deluded idiots want us to do. Appeasement is the answer
The thing with a**holes like this is that if you give them an inch they will take a mile......and that is their plan.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

The thing with a**holes like this is that if you give them an inch they will take a mile......and that is their plan.

That's always been their strategy.

just taking offence on something small. expands into bigger things.
those small things that expand. are the strategies of world domination.

[techguyone]

As an aside, after watching the debating going on here, one thing that is encouraging to me at least is the fact, that compared to say 5 or 6 years ago, more people are now much more vigorously defending the Western way of life/values.
This is a good thing, and shows perhaps as time goes by and the Muslims get more 'demanding' that decent society rises up to meet that. I suppose it helps that we're not all now immediately called bigots or racists, or far right nutjobs and immediately stifled as we were if we ever dared to murmur anything under the last administrations regime.

Just an observation, I also think that as more ordinary (non Muslim) people get peed off with the situation, more will question the validity of acceding everything to a people that take offence at anything.

Maybe then, things will start to change, people generally only put up with so much ******** for so long.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by martyh

Given the deaths that have resulted i wonder if he would still feel the same had he lived ,more to the point i wonder if the families of all those dead people feel as he did or are they acceptable losses in the fight to maintain someones right to print whatever the hell they like regardless of consequencies.

I reckon most if not all don't actually give a toss about the press' percieved right to print whatever they want ,they just want their loved ones back

We can only go on his word that he felt what they were doing was worth the risk even after the previous attack and I don't think anyone rational would say their deaths were acceptable, no more than anyone would say that the attacks were a justified response to the original printing.

"I always knew he was going to die like Theo Van Gogh. I begged him to leave France but he wouldn’t." She has also said that Charb never had children because he knew he was going to die, that he defended secularism and the spirit of Voltaire. “I admired him before I fell in love with him and I loved him because of the way he was, because he was brave. He thought that life was a small thing when he was defending his ideals,” she said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeannet...#Personal_life

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by techguyone

As an aside, after watching the debating going on here, one thing that is encouraging to me at least is the fact, that compared to say 5 or 6 years ago, more people are now much more vigorously defending the Western way of life/values.
This is a good thing, and shows perhaps as time goes by and the Muslims get more 'demanding' that decent society rises up to meet that. I suppose it helps that we're not all now immediately called bigots or racists, or far right nutjobs and immediately stifled as we were if we ever dared to murmur anything under the last administrations regime.

Just an observation, I also think that as more ordinary (non Muslim) people get peed off with the situation, more will question the validity of acceding everything to a people that take offence at anything.

Maybe then, things will start to change, people generally only put up with so much ******** for so long.

It's a good and true point.
we have put up with such a lot from them over the years. and we have tolerated it more due to their colour/race/religion/whatever.

but they have got more 'demanding' until enough is enough.

the truth is. that if they were not of a different colour/race/religion then they would have been told a long time ago where to stick it.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Russ

You don't think it's worth the effort to back up your words with actions, that's fair enough. At least you had the testicular fortitude to say so unlike some.

I didn't say that, I just rejected your some what silly idea with to go with something better

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Gary L

I think we should all accept defeat on this.
Russ has found a get out clause.

is it insanity ?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

is it insanity ?

Delusions of self grandeur.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

is it insanity ?

Strong tablets.

Enough, thanks. Back to the topic.

[Osem]

Ermmm... is it safe to pop back in here yet or would that offend anyone?...

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Osem

Ermmm... is it safe to pop back in here yet or would that offend anyone?...

its always safe and who could possibly be offended by your presence