How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
12-12-2014, 21:05
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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but if their on my property and i feel under threat[ globally]as an atheist ,i can use proportional force to defend myself .
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Seeing as there is no 'global threat', at least not in the UK you'd have to explain why you had a gun in your house.
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12-12-2014, 21:14
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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Seeing as there is no 'global threat', at least not in the UK you'd have to explain why you had a gun in your house.
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12-12-2014, 23:44
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
Best way to deal with JW or Church of the Latter Day Saints is to not answer the door OR to just shut the door on them.. No need for any confrontation.
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13-12-2014, 00:16
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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OR to just shut the door on them.. No need for any confrontation.
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13-12-2014, 00:18
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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In other words it just fits in with your view, fair enough.
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and many, many others ... except you. Maybe every one else can chip in: who likes cold callers and who does not?
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13-12-2014, 00:30
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
We used to get them at our door until I stuck a sign up. Not heard from them since.... Thank God! 
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13-12-2014, 08:31
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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and many, many others ... except you. Maybe every one else can chip in: who likes cold callers and who does not?
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Cable Forum isn't anywhere near an accurate representation of "everyone", and I've not said I like having cold callers - you're just being defensive now. I'm just asking whether you have any facts to back up your claim or it merely fits in with your opinion.
As a point of interest in a previous job I used to "cold call" people by phone a good few years back but not in the way you'd think. It was social research by the government which is something that nobody is permitted to opt-out from (even ex-directory or TPS-registered people) but are allowed to not participate in once we told them what it was about. I can't produce figures from back then but of all the calls I made I'd estimate a good 90% or more gave no indication of disliking us, hostility, disapproval, aggressiveness etc.
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We used to get them at our door until I stuck a sign up. Not heard from them since.... Thank God! |
That's exactly what I do, I also have a sticker on my door saying "No junk mail, flyers or menus".
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13-12-2014, 10:22
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
There is an important difference between most of the cold callers and the religious ones and that is that it is personal: the evangelists that will knock on your door are there because they have decided you need "saving". They have judged you (in your absence) and found you wanting. The arrogance is beyond belief ..
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As a point of interest in a previous job I used to "cold call" people by phone a good few years back but not in the way you'd think. It was social research by the government which is something that nobody is permitted to opt-out from (even ex-directory or TPS-registered people) but are allowed to not participate in once we told them what it was about. I can't produce figures from back then but of all the calls I made I'd estimate a good 90% or more gave no indication of disliking us, hostility, disapproval, aggressiveness etc
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I'd like you to repeat that exercise but working for an TPS ignoring offshore company that rings people more than once a day, using pre-recorded messages selling insurance, etc. or that have foreign call centres employing staff who you find hard to understand what they are saying plus they are ringing you during antisocial hours using telephone lines where the number is withheld so you cannot ring back and complain.
Then ask if they like you ...
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13-12-2014, 10:26
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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the evangelists that will knock on your door are there because they have decided you need "saving". They have judged you (in your absence) and found you wanting. The arrogance is beyond belief ..
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That goes with what I said. a lot of them think they're an authority on it all. an authority on something that a lot of people believe is just in your imagination. something that you want to be true. but really isn't.
and by you not using your imagination and 'believing' that something that isn't real. is infact real. are being 'globally' looked upon as a bad sport.
play the game or we kill you.
Lord show thouself!
maketh all men believers.
donteth test us.
your test is getting people in their miilions maimed and killed.
put an end to mans evil. and stop the killing in your name by showing yourself!
Amen.
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Why create the life of a baby. and taketh that life away within seconds?
what was the point of that?
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13-12-2014, 10:38
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
[QUOTE=Russ;35746551] Cable Forum isn't anywhere near an accurate representation of "everyone", and I've not said I like having cold callers - you're just being defensive now. I'm just asking whether you have any facts to back up your claim or it merely fits in with your opinion.
it was when it suited
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Read this forum and you'll see how there is no 'global threat' to the right to deny the existence of God.
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and many, many others ... except you. Maybe every one else can chip in: who likes cold callers and who does not?
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hate em-their at the door or on the phone all the time 
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That goes with what I said. a lot of them think they're an authority on it all. an authority on something that a lot of people believe is just in your imagination. something that you want to be true. but really isn't.
and by you not using your imagination and 'believing' that something that isn't real. is infact real. are being 'globally' looked upon as a bad sport.
play the game or we kill you.
Lord show thouself!
maketh all men believers.
donteth test us.
your test is getting people in their miilions maimed and killed.
put an end to mans evil. and stop the killing in your name by showing yourself!
Amen.
P.S.
Why create the life of a baby. and taketh that life away within seconds?
what was the point of that?
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I DON'TETH COS I DON'TETH EXISTETH wooooooooeth woooooooooeth
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13-12-2014, 11:20
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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Originally Posted by ianch99
There is an important difference between most of the cold callers and the religious ones and that is that it is personal: the evangelists that will knock on your door are there because they have decided you need "saving". They have judged you (in your absence) and found you wanting. The arrogance is beyond belief ..
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Aa opposed to the arrogance of Virgin Media sales people who have decided you "need" their service rather than Sky?
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I'd like you to repeat that exercise but working for an TPS ignoring offshore company that rings people more than once a day, using pre-recorded messages selling insurance, etc. or that have foreign call centres employing staff who you find hard to understand what they are saying plus they are ringing you during antisocial hours using telephone lines where the number is withheld so you cannot ring back and complain.
Then ask if they like you ...
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I'm sure they won't; however you said 'cold callers', I wasn't aware that you cherry-pick the ones you don't mind as much.
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13-12-2014, 11:45
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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I used to "cold call" people by phone a good few years back but not in the way you'd think. It was social research by the government which is something that nobody is permitted to opt-out from (even ex-directory or TPS-registered people) but are allowed to not participate in once we told them what it was about.
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Did you tell them you have to listen to me. or was they allowed to shut you off before you finished your script?
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13-12-2014, 11:51
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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Best way to deal with JW or Church of the Latter Day Saints is to not answer the door OR to just shut the door on them.. No need for any confrontation.
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Sorry but they have created the confrontation by knocking on my door. I have a sign on my gate telling them not to call but sadly they cannot read or chose to have a confrontation with me.
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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Sorry but they have created the confrontation by knocking on my door. I have a sign on my gate telling them not to call but sadly they cannot read or chose to have a confrontation with me.
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If people ignore a sign on your property then they're clearly in the wrong however if it's worded correctly (ie stating you are removing all implied rights to access) it should tell them they are risking prosecution by breaching it.
I'm sure the next line from some would be "But why should I have to go to all the effort of writing out a sign etc", in which case bear in mind it would also apply to bailiffs (without a court order) and TV licences inspectors (also without a warrant).
In fact the only people who are exempt from such a notice would be the postman, emergency service personnel or someone executing a court order.
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13-12-2014, 15:45
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Re: How the right to deny the existence of God is under threat globally.
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Sorry but they have created the confrontation by knocking on my door. I have a sign on my gate telling them not to call but sadly they cannot read or chose to have a confrontation with me.
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that's because like all book thumpers they totally disrespect you and your wishes ,they are going to get their point across if it kills them, they can't help it though they are programmed from birth to seek out none believers and inflict religion into their lives if they want it or not .
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