EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK
09-11-2014, 16:32
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Re: EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK
I'm sure there's any number of treaties that we've signed over the decades/centuries that we've reneged on or been overtaken by events yet we still trade with the rest of the world. How could EU treaties, especially the disadvantageous ones be any different?
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09-11-2014, 16:37
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Re: EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK
Never a wise tactic with staunch UKIPers....
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09-11-2014, 16:58
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Re: EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
I'm sure there's any number of treaties that we've signed over the decades/centuries that we've reneged on or been overtaken by events yet we still trade with the rest of the world. How could EU treaties, especially the disadvantageous ones be any different?
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However, we are in the modern world, and no longer have gunships/massed armies to reinforce our treaty breaches.....
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09-11-2014, 17:06
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Re: EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK
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Or as we call it, reasoned debate using facts....  |
im all for you trying something new its good to embrace change ,just give us the nod when you've started
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09-11-2014, 17:12
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Re: EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK
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So the UKIP way is to act without thinking of the consequences, and to breach legal agreements, and assume every other country will go 'No worries, UKIP will sort everything out....'.
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And the Conservative way is to say one thing in public whilst banging on the lectern, then do the bloody opposite in a supposed deal its no wonder they are losing people's faith in them.
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09-11-2014, 18:15
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Re: EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK
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im all for you trying something new its good to embrace change ,just give us the nod when you've started |
OK - two questions
a) if UKIP win the next election, what will their process be to leave the European Union
b) if whoever wins the next election holds a referendum, and the majority vote to stay in, what will UKIP do?
Over to you....
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09-11-2014, 18:21
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Re: EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK
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OK - two questions
a) if UKIP win the next election, what will their process be to leave the European Union
b) if whoever wins the next election holds a referendum, and the majority vote to stay in, what will UKIP do?
Over to you.... |
Ask for another referendum with easier questions? It's been tried before you know...
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09-11-2014, 18:41
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Re: EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK
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And the Conservative way is to say one thing in public whilst banging on the lectern, then do the bloody opposite in a supposed deal its no wonder they are losing people's faith in them. |
and yet the polls say the opposite
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09-11-2014, 19:18
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Re: EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK
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OK - two questions
a) if UKIP win the next election, what will their process be to leave the European Union
b) if whoever wins the next election holds a referendum, and the majority vote to stay in, what will UKIP do?
Over to you.... |
is this you starting with the facts ? [ the new thing your trying out we discussed it earlier ]
if it is then i must point out that asking questions is not presenting "facts"its more like fishing for answers.
a- ukip will not win the next general election that's for the future
b-still exist campaigning to exit the eu [ its still an un-polishable turd but you already know that you just don't want to admit it ].
c- that's another question
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09-11-2014, 19:24
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Re: EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK
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b-still exist campaigning to exit the eu [ its still an un-polishable turd but you already know that you just don't want to admit it ].
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So they'll be campaigning for something that (in Hugh's hypothesis) the majority of people don't want? Way to win votes there....
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09-11-2014, 19:33
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Re: EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK
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So they'll be campaigning for something that (in Hugh's hypothesis) the majority of people don't want? Way to win votes there....
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yea just like every other political party that the majority don't vote for ,they don't just crawl away you know they come back fighting and try to win next time .
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09-11-2014, 19:38
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Re: EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK
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is this you starting with the facts ? [ the new thing your trying out we discussed it earlier ]
if it is then i must point out that asking questions is not presenting "facts"its more like fishing for answers.
a- ukip will not win the next general election that's for the future
b-still exist campaigning to exit the eu [ its still an un-polishable turd but you already know that you just don't want to admit it ].
c- that's another question |
so the only way leave the EU any time soon is to vote conservative
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09-11-2014, 19:38
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Re: EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK
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yea just like every other political party that the majority don't vote for ,they don't just crawl away you know they come back fighting and try to win next time .
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There's a big difference between that and having a single policy that you're known for which is something the majority don't want.
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09-11-2014, 19:40
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Re: EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK
I really like how UKIP have disrupted the political orthodoxy.
Doesn't change that I find the vast majority of their policies alarming.
EDIT: The more I've done my homework the clearer it's become that, for me, the option that most matches the new, improved Carl who escaped London, is the Greens.
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09-11-2014, 19:45
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Re: EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK
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so the only way leave the EU any time soon is to vote conservative
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that won't happen your glorious leader is a liar and has no intention of offering you and the other gullible followers a choice .
ukip is your only hope for the future don't waste that vote on the toffs club .
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