EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK

[Mr Angry]

This is the type of "deal" Osborne appears to have negotiated.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

This is the type of "deal" Osborne appears to have negotiated.

the mathamagicle equations are beyond the understanding of the common man. but rest assured its a good deal for the uk cos dave said it is

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

So we still get shafted. Another gift to UKIP.

Indeed a few more of these and i will be pretty much convinced the EU are doing it on purpose to force a referendum and answer the question once and for all.

With Labour almost unelectable because of there leader, The lib dems in the same boat, we are looking at a Tory Ukip pact after the next election.

I feel the only way out of the abyse for Labour is for them to kick out Miliband or agree to a referendum should they get in power.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

but if he didn't pay then we wouldn't be eligible to have all of Eastern Europe's dross come here and steal our jobs and houses and over populate our schools and bring the NHS to its knees ,you need to remember that without this dross we are nothing

Only thing is they don't steal anyone's jobs.

I'm in fits of laughter watching Cameron and co trying to pretend were not paying this in full and have got a great deal and changed the eu. All that bluster and bravado a couple of weeks ago as usual with Dave didn't mean a damn thing and Osbourne engaged in yet another smoke and mirrors routine. Some in this country are not surprised as they have seen this routine many times in a few areas of government and should they get elected next year we will have many more. Also for those saying vote Tory to get a referendum do you honestly believe were going to get a straightforward vote from Dave a man who is in favour of Europe and despite all his talk in the last few years has basically ended up doing what he was told by the EU.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

http://news.sky.com/story/1369482/os...-1-7bn-eu-bill

Maybe, members will tell me that l am wrong. But didn't Cameron and Osborne say that they would NOT pay this money.

We as the tax payers, will be paying this though our taxation. So l think we are being told porkies.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

http://news.sky.com/story/1369482/os...-1-7bn-eu-bill

Maybe, members will tell me that l am wrong. But didn't Cameron and Osborne say that they would NOT pay this money.

We as the tax payers, will be paying this though our taxation. So l think we are being told porkies.

tories tell pokies never what you expect Arthur

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Russ

Only thing is they don't steal anyone's jobs.

ok
they flood the local job markets and take all the low skill jobs leaving a whole generation with no work .

[Russ]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

ok
they flood the local job markets and take all the low skill jobs leaving a whole generation with no work .

That 'whole generation' could take the same jobs if they wanted to.

If you want to blame someone blame the employers. It's they who decide who the jobs go to.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Russ

That 'whole generation' could take the same jobs if they wanted to.

If you want to blame someone blame the employers. It's they who decide who the jobs go to.

i blame successive governments for allowing this to happen ..

the job market is controlled by Eastern European agency's and they only employ their own ,so we still have a generation with no work .
this town is full of food processing factories that have been the backbone of local employment for all of my lifetime now its all polish /Latvian .
vote UKIP and end this failed experiment .

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

i blame successive governments for allowing this to happen ..

the job market is controlled by Eastern European agency's and they only employ their own ,so we still have a generation with no work .
this town is full of food processing factories that have been the backbone of local employment for all of my lifetime now its all polish /Latvian .
vote UKIP and end this failed experiment .

There getting my vote.

[Russ]

Yes, never mind what they might do to the economy, the NHS, schools etc just as long as they deal with immigration and the EU which are the only problems we have.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Russ

Yes, never mind what they might do to the economy, the NHS, schools etc just as long as they deal with immigration and the EU which are the only problems we have.

we don't have a local economy its all being channeled to eastern Europe .

You realise, don't you, that UKIP can't just make the UK leave the EU (how ever much quite a few of us want to) - Nigel Farage is very short on the details on how he would bring about the UK leaving the EU, except that he would hold a referendum. I wonder what would happen if he (or the Tories, if they win next year) held a referendum, and the majority vote for staying in?

We are bound by legal treaties - we have to disengage in a legal way, otherwise why would any country we want to deal with in the future trust us, as treaty-breakers; we need to negotiate an exit, and create new bilateral treaties with countries as trading partners.

This article, from the Grauniad, is fairly even-handed about the challenges that may occur should we leave.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

You realise, don't you, that UKIP can't just make the UK leave the EU (how ever much quite a few of us want to) - Nigel Farage is very short on the details on how he would bring about the UK leaving the EU.

We are bound by legal treaties - we have to disengage in a legal way, otherwise why would any country we want to deal with in the future trust us, as treaty-breakers; we need to negotiate an exit, and create new bilateral treaties with countries as trading partners.

This article, from the Grauniad, is fairly even-handed about the challenges that may occur should we leave.

put the cheque book back in the drawer and wave two fingers at the parasites works for me , i don't share your we can't just attitude i prefer a [we can do attitude ]negotiate my ass they would probably try to stitch us up with yet another bill its time we tell them how its going to be rule Britannia and all that .