EU demand extra £1.7bn from UK

I wonder if this could be an excuse for the war the EU was allegedly set up to prevent between member states of Europe? If so, they'll get what they got in WW2 - a sound thrashing!

I don't remember the EU saying they would invade Britain if we didn't pay.....

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I don't remember the EU saying they would invade Britain if we didn't pay.....

They don't need to invade, they already control of us.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I don't remember the EU saying they would invade Britain if we didn't pay.....

That would be so cool if they did.

Originally Posted by Gary L

That would be so cool if they did.

Bless....

A value-free statement from someone who has never been in the line of fire.

Good of you to be be brave on others behalf....

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Hugh

A value-free statement from someone who has never been in the line of fire.

He said I drove whilst taking drugs yesterday, too.

Bless.....

[Ignitionnet]

Well Angela Merkel has backed the EU on this one, and Mr Juncker has said that David Cameron should show 'political coverage' as 'nothing can be done.'.

I'm looking forward to reading The Sunday Times tomorrow.

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So glad we're in the EU and can negotiate these things from inside.

Oh and for those who wondered what happens if we don't pay, while it's not as bad as Wonga it's not good.

Britain would face additional interest charges of 2.5 per cent in the first month, which would increase by 0.25 per cent for every extra month during which the outstanding amount was not paid off.

Fines could also be levied up to a maximum of E200 million.

[Mr Angry]

Send in the bailiffs, it's what Dave would want.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Well Angela Merkel has backed the EU on this one, and Mr Juncker has said that David Cameron should show 'political coverage' as 'nothing can be done.'.

I'm looking forward to reading The Sunday Times tomorrow.

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So glad we're in the EU and can negotiate these things from inside.

Oh and for those who wondered what happens if we don't pay, while it's not as bad as Wonga it's not good.



Fines could also be levied up to a maximum of E200 million.

What's the point of doing anything about immigration now, everyone that wants to be here is already here, we going to kick them out, no thought not

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Well Angela Merkel has backed the EU on this one, and Mr Juncker has said that David Cameron should show 'political coverage' as 'nothing can be done.'.

I'm looking forward to reading The Sunday Times tomorrow.



So glad we're in the EU and can negotiate these things from inside.

Oh and for those who wondered what happens if we don't pay, while it's not as bad as Wonga it's not good.



Fines could also be levied up to a maximum of E200 million.

How about we just don't pay any fines/interest, let them expel us and save us the cost of the referendum... Simples.

I think it's time to call a few bluffs and if that doesn't work well I'm sure Merkel won't mind asking her electorate to stump up the extra billions required to make up for the UK's net contribution.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Send in the bailiffs, it's what Dave would want.

After selling the debt to a private sector debt collector for pennies on the pound to chase in full, naturally.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

What's the point of doing anything about immigration now, everyone that wants to be here is already here, we going to kick them out, no thought not

If that were the case gross immigration would drop dramatically. Not entirely sure I've seen that trend in the stats.

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Yep that Sunday Times article is as unequivocal as the headline suggested.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...cle1476068.ece

ANGELA MERKEL has delivered a potentially fatal blow to David Cameron’s attempt to cap immigration from the European Union.

The German chancellor told The Sunday Times that she would not support Cameron’s plans to limit freedom of movement within the EU as part of his planned renegotiation of Britain’s relationship with Brussels.

The prime minister has pledged to make changes to freedom of movement a “red line” in a new deal and is preparing to pledge to bring in quotas for low-skilled EU migrants.

But questioned by this newspaper during an EU summit in Brussels, Merkel categorically denied that there was any possibility of Germany supporting any limitations on the freedom of movement — a potentially terminal intervention from Britain’s key ally.

“Germany will not tamper with the fundamental principles of free movement in the EU,” she said.

Her words were echoed by Laszlo Andor, the outgoing commissioner in charge of labour and social affairs, who said in an interview with The Sunday Times that Cameron’s plans were illegal and would not get support from any other EU country.

I really do get a new appreciation of the influence we have within the EU with every passing day.

I think Merkel is right. Freedom of movement isn't one of the many wonderful aspects of EU membership that have been foisted on us since we joined. It is one of the founding principles. We can't say we didn't know about it and we can't reasonably seek an exemption from it whilst still remaining a member of the EU.

The pathway is now very clear. We cannot remain in the EU; all we can do is invoke Article 50 of the Treaty of Lisbon, announcing our intention to leave and compelling the other member states to negotiate our post-membership relationship with the EU. Only with a bespoke, negotiated associate membership can we hope to regain control of our borders.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Chris

I think Merkel is right. Freedom of movement isn't one of the many wonderful aspects of EU membership that have been foisted on us since we joined. It is one of the founding principles. We can't say we didn't know about it and we can't reasonably seek an exemption from it whilst still remaining a member of the EU.

The pathway is now very clear. We cannot remain in the EU; all we can do is invoke Article 50 of the Treaty of Lisbon, announcing our intention to leave and compelling the other member states to negotiate our post-membership relationship with the EU. Only with a bespoke, negotiated associate membership can we hope to regain control of our borders.

That would get my vote.

I am just waiting for how Dave will word his U turn on not paying the money grab from the EU. We have no choice but to pay it and no matter how he stamps his feet or bangs his hands on tables he will pay it. I think we will have a lot more UKIP Mp's this time next year and a lot less Tory Mp's.

[Gary L]

I think he's going to 'negotiate a deal' (all prepared in advance) where he'll only pay half. and save us Great British People a load of money. and he'll come out a hero.

a hero ready for the next election. where we can put our EU super hero back into power.
because our fat super hero kicks EU ass.

[heero_yuy]

One has to listen to what he is actually saying: "We won't pay the money by the end of November"

Leavng the option of some shabby backroom deal that can be kept secret until after the May elections.

[Pierre]

Oh we'll pay it. Of that I am in no doubt.