MP's Pay

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by martyh

I would sooner IPSA or a similar body be responsible for MP's pay than the ridiculous situation where MP's vote themselves a pay rise

what led to the expenses scandal, who'd have thought their thieving crooked ways would've led to massive pay rises all round, how independent are ipsa anyway, about as independent as CEO's remuneration committees I'd bet, where they all sit on each others.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

what led to the expenses scandal, who'd have thought their thieving crooked ways would've led to massive pay rises all round, how independent are ipsa anyway, about as independent as CEO's remuneration committees I'd bet, where they all sit on each others.

I think it has to the lesser of two evils .At the moment IPSA for me are the better alternative ,not ideal just better.I have no doubt that if it hasn't already the "old boy network" will creep in but at least things are a bit more transparent than they where when the expenses scandal hit

[Arthurgray50@blu]

This really makes my blood boil. We have every signle person in this country is suffering due to lack of money. Last month, i got paid my normal salary, that paid the overdraft off and by the end of the month l was down to my last £1.50 And yet MPs get a pcksky pay rise - and they claim they deserve it. Absolutely crap. They get expenses, that pays everything from a pen, down to porn channels - plus a whopping great salary. This 'we are in this together' is like an insult if MPs accept this. Maybe they should donate there pay rises to the emergency services, food bancks etc MPs are a bloody disgrace. I worked at the House Of Commons, and they dont get food etc from Tesco's, they get the real mccoy, plus top quality booze. And most of this is either thrown out, or down there guts. Go down Pall Mall, in London. And see all the MPs that come the MPs sociail clubs and you will see the MPs all rat assed - and we pay for that.

[nomadking]

Consider this, Ministers including the Prime Minister, come from the pool of MPs or House of Lords. They are not positions where you join at the bottom and take 20 years to make your way up to MD. The right sort of people need to able to consider becoming an MP, because they could quickly find themselves making important decisions as a Minister. They may be MPs that are not up to the job, but there is no way of differentiating between those that are and those that aren't.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Put it this way
My pay, a basic pay of 24.000 per year, NO OVERTIME ALLOWED, my shift allowance was cut, my last pay rise was last year of 1%. My rent went up, so bingo my 1% disappears, l pay normal resouces of water etc. And live on an overdraft

MPs gets 75.000 grand per year, expenses account to pay bills, and pay for a second home, pay for staff, normally there own family.
They get a pay rise each year, and now they are granted a further increase
They get a food expense account in the commons. Get discount on what they pay - then charge it to the expense account - didn't someone claim for drawing pins.

MPs dont do what the voter asked for, they bring out appalling policies etc etc

I believe that IF we the voter, the MPs should as well.

[Derek]

And it's up to £74,000 plus expenses. A nice wee 10% bump when everyone else in the public sector is held to a maximum of 1% (plus their pensions being decimated)

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Derek

And it's up to £74,000 plus expenses. A nice wee 10% bump when everyone else in the public sector is held to a maximum of 1% (plus their pensions being decimated)

At least they'll now be dragged out of abject poverty and able to afford to buy their own flat screen TVs, luxury scatter cushions, posh sofas, duck houses, porn subscriptions...

[Derek]

We're all in this together. Well the plebs are, MPs are far too important to not get more.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Derek

We're all in this together. Well the plebs are, MPs are far too important to not get more.

Being in law enforcement the irony of getting financially rewarded for gross expenses fraud won't be lost on you either I'm sure

[Hom3r]

MPs and Tube drivers are grossly over paid.

Nurses get treated like crap, but the two nurses looking after my mum deserve more than they get.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Derek

We're all in this together. Well the plebs are, MPs are far too important to not get more.

We really don't want more MPs...

What's that saying? Ah yes.

You get what you pay for..

[denphone]

Oh what a hypocrite especially when he said "we are all in this together" several times over.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...y-rise-for-mps

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by denphone

Oh what a hypocrite especially when he said "we are all in this together" several times over.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...y-rise-for-mps

Yes, but it's not in his gift to set the pay rates for MPs no matter how much you may despise him or want to say that he's a hypocrit. It's down to a supposidly independent committe that was set up in the wake of previous pay scandals that were perpetrated by MP's setting their own pay rates.

Don't get me wrong, I think it stinks but that's the way it is at the moment in the absence of a better method like linking MP's pay to a multiple of the average wage for example.

Originally Posted by denphone

Oh what a hypocrite especially when he said "we are all in this together" several times over.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...y-rise-for-mps

You must have missed this bit in your outrage...

I don’t actually think this was the right decision but the bit I’m responsible for, ministers’ pay, cut and frozen.”

And there was an interesting point made by the IPSA Chair in the last paragraph

“Over the last parliament, MPs’ pay increased by 2%, compared to 5% in the public sector and 10% in the whole economy. It is right that we make this one-off increase and then formally link MPs’ pay to public sector pay,” he said.