Child abuse 'may well have been' covered up - Norman Tebbit - Page 7

nomadking · 28-08-2014, 01:02

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

The police commissioner resigned yet? If there was one thing this post would be good for this is it but those chocolate fireguards couldn't even get that right

Police Commissioners haven't been around long enough to have stopped this.

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Mr Wright has faced calls to step down after a report on child abuse in Rotherham, where he managed children's services between 2005 and 2010.

That is the reason for the criticism of him.

TheDaddy · 28-08-2014, 02:00

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Police Commissioners haven't been around long enough to have stopped this.
That is the reason for the criticism of him.

See the bigger picture, he knew there was a problem and was promoted to a position where he could do something about it and didn't, that's the reason for the criticism

nomadking · 28-08-2014, 02:23

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See the bigger picture, he knew there was a problem and was promoted to a position where he could do something about it and didn't, that's the reason for the criticism

Action was already in progress. Convictions happened in 2010. Being a Police Commissioner had little to do with it.

Why did Labour think he was a good/suitable candidate for Police Commissioner?

TheDaddy · 28-08-2014, 03:32

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Action was already in progress. Convictions happened in 2010. Being a Police Commissioner had little to do with it.

Why did Labour think he was a good/suitable candidate for Police Commissioner?

If it's irrelevant why not leave him in post now, he's no longer anything to do with childrens services

Osem · 28-08-2014, 09:45

There's one main reason why this abuse was overlooked and it's because the protection of these children was deemed less important than the socio-political aims and obsessions of those in charge. For too long we've been subjected to an environment in which anything said/done to contradict official policy with respect to race/religion/culture etc. is akin to heresy. That's the root of this problem and until it's tackled little will change.

Gary L · 28-08-2014, 09:59

Agreed. if they were white it would have been investigated. and if there was nothing there then it would be sorry for the inconvenience.

but because we're PC mad. too scared of offending people (and these people know we are. and they use that fact to do what they want to do) these children were ignored.

Russ · 28-08-2014, 10:40

They were NOT "too scared of offending people". The reports state they did not want to be accused of racism (which is different from a fear of causing offence) and also they felt naming the suspects as Asian would have increased the chances of groups like the BNP moving in to the area and causing trouble.

Not saying I think any of these reason are acceptable but if you're going to have a go at someone at least make it for the right reasons.

Gary L · 28-08-2014, 10:45

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Originally Posted by Russ

They were NOT "too scared of offending people". The reports state they did not want to be accused of racism (which is different from a fear of causing offence) and also they felt naming the suspects as Asian would have increased the chances of groups like the BNP moving in to the area and causing trouble. Not saying I think any of these reason are acceptable but if you're going to have a go at someone at least make it for the right reasons.

They were too scared of offending people. because of their race.
the two go together.
otherwise someone who is the subject of racism can't be offended.

Russ · 28-08-2014, 10:54

No. They were worried about other people (regardless of race) accusing them of being racist.

There are no reports to date about the authorities saying they were afraid of "offending" anyone.

Gary L · 28-08-2014, 11:09

With such a serious thing they're hardly likely to say the reason all those children suffered is because we didn't want to come across as impolite (offensive) by investigating at an early stage. racism is stronger. and helps justify their incompetence. but initially it was all down to not wanting to offend.

A fat person that's suspected of eating all the pies and is undergoing an investigation. gets offended.
not a victim of racism. regardless of race.

Russ · 28-08-2014, 11:12

Be careful about sounding so sure in case some question whether you were part of any cover-up.

Gary L · 28-08-2014, 11:14

Will do.

what?

Pierre · 28-08-2014, 11:16

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No. They were worried about other people (regardless of race) accusing them of being racist.

There are no reports to date about the authorities saying they were afraid of "offending" anyone.

Either way, they were intimidated by the potential PC backlash that may have come their way.

So they put their own feelings above that of the children. Which is the most selfish thing I've heard in a good while.

Russ · 28-08-2014, 11:18

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Either way, they were intimidated by the potential PC backlash that may have come their way.

That's never been in doubt.

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So they put their own feelings above that of the children. Which is the most selfish thing I've heard in a good while.

I'd say it's a hell of a lot worse than just 'selfish'.

Stuart · 28-08-2014, 11:22

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Agreed. if they were white it would have been investigated. and if there was nothing there then it would be sorry for the inconvenience.

Nothing to do with it. Jimmy Saville was white. As were/are a lot of the celebrities and MPs now implicated by the various inquiries instigated as a result of the documentary about Saville. They got away with it for years.