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Old 26-08-2014, 16:39   #76
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Re: Child abuse 'may well have been' covered up - Norman Tebbit

Terrifying.

Just like the fear of offending some group or other led to extremism (e.g. Abu Hamza) being openly practiced and tolerated and look where we are now! Remind me whose bright idea all this was again?...
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Old 26-08-2014, 16:44   #77
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Not even slightly surprising, and also a good indication of why these Asian sex gangs keep popping up.
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I see the council leader has already taken responsibility and stepped down.

Given the scathing nature of this report and the serious shortcomings of many of the professionals directly involved, what form of 'taking responsibility' is sufficient? I'm hoping that all those who've been shown to have let these vulnerable children down are going to be made accountable and that doesn't mean retiring early with their pension to save further embarrassment.

Following the costly Sharon Shoesmith debacle (a substantial payout resulting from an "intrinsically unfair and unlawful" dismissal by Labour's Childrens Secretary Ed Balls*) let's just hope that any resulting disciplinary action is handled rather more professionally and effectively than he managed.

* Baby P boss Sharon Shoesmith secures £680,000 payout
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All part of rich, multicultural Britain.
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All part of rich, multicultural Britain.
Yes it's great having so much more choice about who we're attacked, murdered and maimed by isn't it. Once upon a time if you wanted to be blown to smithereens whilst out shopping with the kids the IRA had a virtual monopoly. Now there are folks from around the globe offering all manner of options for an untimely death in the UK...
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I see the council leader has already taken responsibility and stepped down.

Given the scathing nature of this report and the serious shortcomings of many of the professionals directly involved, what form of 'taking responsibility' is sufficient? I'm hoping that all those who've been shown to have let these vulnerable children down are going to be made accountable and that doesn't mean retiring early with their pension to save further embarrassment.

Following the costly Sharon Shoesmith debacle (a substantial payout resulting from an "intrinsically unfair and unlawful" dismissal by Labour's Childrens Secretary Ed Balls*) let's just hope that any resulting disciplinary action is handled rather more professionally and effectively than he managed.

* Baby P boss Sharon Shoesmith secures £680,000 payout
Indeed, any sackings should be done properly and not as a result of political "accountability" (which is not the same as actual accountability) and the need to give the papers a good headline for the early edition.
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Re: Child abuse 'may well have been' covered up - Norman Tebbit

Didn't Nick Griffin try to speak out about this many years ago? Oh yeah, he almost went to prison for it.
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Didn't Nick Griffin try to speak out about this many years ago? Oh yeah, he almost went to prison for it.
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Re: Child abuse 'may well have been' covered up - Norman Tebbit

Here is the actual report.

http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/download...e_in_rotherham

It makes horrific reading, where denial at the extent of the problem, and bureaucracy and lack of resources to cope with the amount of cases seems to have over-ridden the childrens' needs.

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We read cases where a child was doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, children who were threatened with guns, children who witnessed brutally violent rapes and were threatened that they would be the next victim if they told anyone. Girls as young as 11 were raped by large numbers of male perpetrators, one after the other.
“What’s the point... I might as well be dead.”

5.9 In two of the cases we read, fathers tracked down their daughters and tried to remove them from houses where they were being abused, only to be arrested themselves when police were called to the scene. In a small number of cases (which have already received media attention) the victims were arrested for offences such as breach of the peace or being drunk and disorderly, with no action taken against the perpetrators of rape and sexual assault against children.

5.10 There are numerous historic examples (up to the mid-2000s) of children being stalked by their abusers, and some extreme cases of violent threats or actual assaults on the victims and their families.

5.11 One parent, who agreed to her child being placed in a residential unit in order to protect her, wrote to children’s social care expressing her fears for her daughter’s safety. She described her despair that instead of being protected, her child was being exposed to even worse abuse than when she was at home:
“My child (age 13) may appear to be a mature child, yet some of her actions and the risks to which she constantly puts herself are those of a very immature and naïve person. She constantly stays out all night getting drunk, mixing with older mature adults, and refuses to be bound by any rules.”

5.12 One child who was being prepared to give evidence received a text saying the perpetrator had her younger sister and the choice of what happened next was up to her. She withdrew her statements. At least two other families were terrorised by groups of perpetrators, sitting in cars outside the family home, smashing windows, making abusive and threatening phone calls. On some occasions child victims went back to perpetrators in the belief that this was the only way their parents and other children in the family would be safe. In the most extreme cases, no one in the family believed that the authorities could protect them.
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5.9 In two of the cases we read, fathers tracked down their daughters and tried to remove them from houses where they were being abused, only to be arrested themselves when police were called to the scene
This is indicative of just how screwed up the system has become.

The whole thing is utterly horrifying and if things don't change for the better after this nightmare they never will.
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For as long as authorities consider 'community cohesion' more important than the safety of children, these people will continue their crimes with little hiderance.
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Political correctness has become a cancer in our society.
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Re: Child abuse 'may well have been' covered up - Norman Tebbit

The police commissioner resigned yet? If there was one thing this post would be good for this is it but those chocolate fireguards couldn't even get that right
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