Will Scotland Leave the UK?

[Pierre]

As good as any poll

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-28279790

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Pierre

As good as any poll

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-28279790

Pretty much backs up all the mock referendums and public votes held in schools, universities and at tough mudder that have all said a no vote is the most likely outcome.

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Derek

The GuessNP really are getting beyond parody now.

Quote:
British spies may have orchestrated the abusive messages sent to JK Rowling after she spoke out against independence, a leading SNP politician has claimed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ian-warns.html

Strangely enough.

"The leaked document details a range of programs designed to collect and store public postings from Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and Google+ and to make automated postings on several of the social networks."

I'm not for a second suggesting it has happened in the Rowling situation but it is doable and can be done should it suit GCHQ and the Intelligence Services.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Strangely enough.

"The leaked document details a range of programs designed to collect and store public postings from Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and Google+ and to make automated postings on several of the social networks."

I'm not for a second suggesting it has happened in the Rowling situation but it is doable and can be done should it suit GCHQ and the Intelligence Services.

I don't doubt the technology, but reasoning behind the SNP claim is still rediculous.

[Mr Angry]

In your estimation, perhaps. However, given what's at stake many won't find it too much of a stretch.

Sooner this is over the better the longer it goes on the more dirty it's getting and the more the nats are stoking anti english sentiment making relations between england and scotland harder in the future. They may be using the term "westminster" a lot but it isn't taking much reading between the lines to see their real meaning and i'm getting a bit sick and tired of being the bad guy in something that to be honest i am past caring about go, stay it's all the same to me at this point.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Did they cover what happens when the oil runs out?

I didn't see anything, but there again I was only half watching it whilst replying to emails.

If this is the case, a yes vote may economically benefit England as we we won't have to plough money into Scotland to replace the lost revenue, despite having reaped the benefits of the oil for many years.

[nashville]

I am NO person & my family all feel the same, Salmon cannot be trusted one bit,
Better the Devil, than the devil you don,t know. Be sensible Vote NO

[Doug P]

Has Salmond proved that it is not a huge risk for Scotland to vote Yes?

I don't think he has....

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Derek

Oops. Remember how Alex 'I'm right, you're wrong' Salmond has been banging on about an independent Scotland immediately giving up a chunk of its independence by walking into the EU on its terms? It seems like the new EU boss has other ideas.



It's even funnier as a week ago they were hailing him as the greatest thing ever as he would be more receptive to iScotland and it's EU plans. Awkward.

I see Herr Juncker's office has now clarified that he wasn't at any stage referencing Scotland.

"New European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker was not referring to Scotland when he said there would be no new members of the EU in the next five years, BBC Scotland has learned.

Opponents of Scottish independence had seized on his remarks to the European Parliament to back their campaign
.
They said it proved that, if Scotland were to vote to leave the UK, it would not get back into the EU before 2019.

But a spokeswoman confirmed that he was talking about countries outside the EU."

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

I see Herr Juncker's office has now clarified that he wasn't at any stage referencing Scotland.

"New European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker was not referring to Scotland when he said there would be no new members of the EU in the next five years, BBC Scotland has learned.

Opponents of Scottish independence had seized on his remarks to the European Parliament to back their campaign
.
They said it proved that, if Scotland were to vote to leave the UK, it would not get back into the EU before 2019.

But a spokeswoman confirmed that he was talking about countries outside the EU."

He was referring to comments he made today. Not the comments he made about Scotland not getting fast-track entry. The SNP are already spinning it to seem that way but they're two different issues.

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Damien

He was referring to comments he made today. Not the comments he made about Scotland not getting fast-track entry. The SNP are already spinning it to seem that way but they're two different issues.

He has clarified that he wasn't referencing Scotland. That was my point.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

He has clarified that he wasn't referencing Scotland. That was my point.

Yes but he clarified he wasn't referencing Scotland in remarks he made yesterday, not the remarks you quoted.

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Damien

Yes but he clarified he wasn't referencing Scotland in remarks he made yesterday, not the remarks you quoted.

I didn't quote any remarks he may or may not have made. The article snippet which Derek provided contains no quotes from Mr Juncker as far as I can see.

Either way Damien, he has clarified he was not referencing Scotland when he was talking about no new entrants over the next five years, a point relevant to both sets of "comments" I think you'll agree.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

I didn't quote any remarks he may or may not have made. The article snippet which Derek provided contains no quotes from Mr Juncker as far as I can see.

Either way Damien, he has clarified he was not referencing Scotland when he was talking about no new entrants over the next five years, a point relevant to both sets of "comments" I think you'll agree.

No. You quoted a article about Junker indicating that Scotland would not have fast-track entry into the EU. The comments you posted in relation to that, about Junker was not 'at any stage referencing Scotland', was nothing to do with the article you had quoted. Junker was clarifying remarks he made yesterday, not about fast-track entry, but about a 5 year freeze on new members.

The position he took in the article that Derek posted has not changed recently. So all I did was highlight that they're two different sets of comments and scenarios. No one has actually talked about the '5-year freeze' because that was only spoken about yesterday.