Child abuse 'may well have been' covered up - Norman Tebbit

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Derek

Really anyone who is in the frame to run this is part of 'the establishment'

Time to get a foreigner in? They were keen on Bill Bratton getting the Met Commisioner job, how about him?

I don't think that the fact she is part of the establishment is actually the problem. I think the fact that she was related to a person who may well have been involved in any cover up would be counted as a potential conflict of interest though.

Originally Posted by greeninferno

its in your link

It says her family is devout ,in fact the link states that " Kennedy still regularly attends Mass and professes that her Catholicism "remains very much part of who I am", even though she eschews its more traditional values".

Don't see why being Catholic should be a problem anyway

[Mr Angry]

And.....they're off!

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by martyh

Don't see why being Catholic should be a problem anyway

With the Pontif admitting that 2% of Catholic priests ARE paedophiles the Roman church or those associated with it by appointment or worship should not be allowed anywhere near this enquiry

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

With the Pontif admitting that 2% of Catholic priests ARE paedophiles the Roman church or those associated with it by appointment or worship should not be allowed anywhere near this enquiry

This inquiry is meant to determine if MP's swept abuse under the carpet ,nothing to do with Catholic priests or Catholicism

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by martyh

This inquiry is meant to determine if MP's swept abuse under the carpet ,nothing to do with Catholic priests or Catholicism

But if the investigator has relations to another tainted institution then the suspicion remains of whitewash or at least a lack of vigour.

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

But if the investigator has relations to another tainted institution then the suspicion remains of whitewash or at least a lack of vigour.

We could go on like that forever though and never find someone suitable .

[Osem]

Originally Posted by martyh

We could go on like that forever though and never find someone suitable .

Such is the prevailing (and growing) attitude of suspicion that we are going to find it increasingly hard to find people willing to subject their lives to public scrutiny, put their reputations on the line and offer their services/support to worthy causes. We shouldn't let the actions, however awful, of a minority of powerful (and not so powerful) people destroy all public trust and result in a creeping form of McCarthyism which only serves to unduly restrict the lives of and options open to children and other vulnerable people.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by martyh

We could go on like that forever though and never find someone suitable .

Which is why looking abroad to other English related countries for suitable candidates is IMHO the correct course of action.

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Which is why looking abroad to other English related countries for suitable candidates is IMHO the correct course of action.

I agree ,i suggested Australia or Canada mainly because their legal system isn't that far removed from ours

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Originally Posted by Osem

Such is the prevailing (and growing) attitude of suspicion that we are going to find it increasingly hard to find people willing to subject their lives to public scrutiny, put their reputations on the line and offer their services/support to worthy causes. We shouldn't let the actions, however awful, of a minority of powerful (and not so powerful) people destroy all public trust and result in a creeping form of McCarthyism which only serves to unduly restrict the lives of and options open to children and other vulnerable people.

Unfortunately given the spate of scandals from our ruling elite i fear that public trust of our leaders is already a thing of the past .The question is how do we get it back ,we need to trust our politicians and leaders or society simply stops working so if it is found that MP's swept abuse under the carpet then it will be really bad for todays government because it will be really hard to accept that the same abuse isn't still happening

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

With the Pontif admitting that 2% of Catholic priests ARE paedophiles the Roman church or those associated with it by appointment or worship should not be allowed anywhere near this enquiry

Is she a priest or more importantly one of the 2%, if we're going to go down this path we will find it hard to find someone as we'll be eliminating anyone who was in the scouts next or likes listening to the radio at this rate.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by martyh

I agree ,i suggested Australia or Canada mainly because their legal system isn't that far removed from ours

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Unfortunately given the spate of scandals from our ruling elite i fear that public trust of our leaders is already a thing of the past .The question is how do we get it back ,we need to trust our politicians and leaders or society simply stops working so if it is found that MP's swept abuse under the carpet then it will be really bad for todays government because it will be really hard to accept that the same abuse isn't still happening

Notwithstanding the fact that some terrible things have gone on, there needs to be some perspective applied to this situation. I reckon it's a very small minority who've engaged in these activities and it isn't going to do anyone any good if we all start doubting the motives and trustworthiness of everyone in positions of power or control whether they be politicians or care home staff.

Originally Posted by Osem

Notwithstanding the fact that some terrible things have gone on, there needs to be some perspective applied to this situation. I reckon it's a very small minority who've engaged in these activities and it isn't going to do anyone any good if we all start doubting the motives and trustworthiness of everyone in positions of power or control whether they be politicians or care home staff.

completely agree .

[Qtx]

Originally Posted by Stuart

I don't think that the fact she is part of the establishment is actually the problem. I think the fact that she was related to a person who may well have been involved in any cover up would be counted as a potential conflict of interest though.

She is going because she either knows someone on the list or being involved will cause her problems along the line due to who is friends with who. There will be people with powerful connections involved no doubt and pressure will be applied...

[Taf]

...fear of being seen as racist stopped social workers saving up to 1,400 children from sexual exploitation at the hands of Asian men in just one town

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-reveals.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-28939089