'Muslim Plot' To Take Over Schools Investigated

[Qtx]

Originally Posted by Russ

And what about wars that are caused by oil, money, greed, land, politics?

What of them?

Don't you just hate it when someone answers a question with a question....

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Qtx

What of them?

Let's assume for one moment it was actually possible to end religion. What will you blame for war then and how would you combat it?

[Qtx]

Originally Posted by Russ

Let's assume for one moment it was actually possible to end religion. What will you blame for war then and how would you combat it?

Oh, so you was insinuating in your last post that I am happy about wars based on greed, oil, land and politics. All of those things are terrible and should not be happening and get me so angry that I am an active activist doing what I can. Obviously not going to say too much on that front but not a good argument to use against me really.

Religion may be a little lower on the pecking order but it's still ranked pretty high.

I'm no atheist btw.

To end war at the moment we need to end our dependence on fossil fuels. Also need to make it so arms companies can't make profit.... Although wiping out the the USA and starting fresh would probably go a long way too. Religion really hasn't helped that country at all.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

Let's assume for one moment it was actually possible to end religion.

If that was possible in the way of it was totally wiped from your mind. in the way that it's not even a distant memory.

then the Muslims would be a lot quieter.
the ones that were making noise.
not all of them.
just the ones I'm talking about.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Qtx

Oh, so you was insinuating in your last post that I am happy about wars based on greed, oil, land and politics. All of those things are terrible and should not be happening and get me so angry that I am an active activist doing what I can. Obviously not going to say too much on that front but not a good argument to use against me really.

I neither said nor implied that.

You seem to be extremely anti-religion and given your comments about its involvement in wars I was wondering if you're against the other factors I mentioned just as much.

[Qtx]

Originally Posted by Russ

You seem to be extremely anti-religion and given your comments about its involvement in wars I was wondering if you're against the other factors I mentioned just as much.

Not sure where you picked that up from. I said in previous posts that anyone should be able to believe in what they want and I don't have a problem with that. What I have an issue with is religion influencing politics, education or anything outside the home/place of worship.

Someones holiday ruined due to religion: Sri Lanka to deport Buddha tattoo British woman @ BBC Today

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Qtx

Not sure where you picked that up from. I said in previous posts that anyone should be able to believe in what they want and I don't have a problem with that. What I have an issue with is religion influencing politics, education or anything outside the home/place of worship.

Someones holiday ruined due to religion: Sri Lanka to deport Buddha tattoo British woman @ BBC Today

Another country's laws aren't something we really have a right to be criticising unless they bring hurt or harm to people.

But back to my question, are you as against those other factors as you seem to be about religion?

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Qtx

Oh, so you was insinuating in your last post that I am happy about wars based on greed, oil, land and politics. All of those things are terrible and should not be happening and get me so angry that I am an active activist doing what I can.

I'm quite surprised anyone was surprised this may be happening but clearly many weren't aware there were elements within UK islam seeking to gain greater control and more influence by any means. It is the majority islamic community that must deal with this it cannot truly be ended by anyone other then the islamic community. Sadly many muslims wuld rather switch mosques then oppose extremists when they appear and that is the problem.

Oh and if i may answer you Russ oil and the other reasons you state are the cause of most wars but religion is such a convinient excuse to cover that agenda.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Oh and if i may answer you Russ oil and the other reasons you state are the cause of most wars but religion is such a convinient excuse to cover that agenda.

Absolutely - so to place the blame on religion certainly isn't a good idea.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

There. Corrected it for you.

Whilst religion isn't always the cause it's the cause that is so often stated by the combatants.

I don't think it needed correcting - I can't think of any wars that were caused by religion however if any have been influenced by it then its detractors will usually assume it was the cause.

I've come across plenty of people who say religion played a big part in WW2 due to Hitler's obsession with Jews.

[Ignitionnet]

More smoke to go with the fire.

More fire to go with the smoke.

[Qtx]

Speaking anonymously to Channel 4 News on Sunday night, the teacher admitted there was a campaign to assert more Muslim influence in schools, describing it as “a very positive thing”.

If Kosha () it's shocking they think it's ok to do.

[TheDaddy]

It's spreading and growing, maybe

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...take-over.html

[Qtx]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

It's spreading and growing, maybe

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...take-over.html

Expect the usual nay-sayers to come along and say it's not happening and anyone who say's so is a racist bigot or something

On Friday, Ofsted confirmed that its investigation had spread from 18 to 21 schools in the city. The three additional schools are primaries.

In a statement, the head teachers’ association said attempts had been made to “alter their character in line with the Islamic faith”, including sidelining parts of the curriculum and attempting to influence the appointment of Muslim staff.

Russell Hobby, its general secretary, warned that the action was unlikely to be “limited to Birmingham”, adding: “I think it is connected into the large cities around the country.”

It is the first time a major teachers’ organisation has confirmed that such concerns exist.