Malaysian Airline plane disappears

[thenry]

The ABC has been told the material is metallic and about 2.5 metres long.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-2...-mh370/5407584

[Uncle Peter]

HMS Echo heading back to Perth. That just leaves Ocean Shield to complete the current search area with the Sonar drone. Not looking hopeful that they'll find anything.

[multiskilled]

Originally Posted by Derek

Possibly just teething troubles with it, of course any problems that happen day in, day out with deep sea surveying will be seized upon by some as proof of a wider conspiracy.

On a side note Pakistan have denied any involvement and will be sending their best deep sea diver to help. Gandeep Undawatter is expected onsite any day.

I think you'll find that is the name of the Geordie submersible built at Swan Hunters in Wallsend.

[Uncle Peter]

Via 7 News, Australia: Independent exploration company claim to have detected anomalies on the ocean floor in the Bay of Bengal, 5,000KM away from the current search.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/sa/a/23036...e-found-mh370/

Some very interesting pictures.

[thenry]

The full report was delivered on April 15.

its been 1 day short of 2 weeks.

[heero_yuy]

BEIJING — Relatives of passengers on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 are launching a crowd-funding campaign to raise a $3 million reward for a whistle-blower to expose key information about the vanished jetliner, the partner of a missing passenger told USA TODAY.

A $2 million fund for private investigators to follow up on promising leads is also being targeted.

Linky

Seems I'm not the only one who believes they were looking in the wrong place. I think that the plane is on land. Probably north of Pakistan.

I have thought all along it was hijacked for a reason.

[Derek]

So it was either diverted to an isolated airfield which would need:

• An isolated airfield with the associated workers to all remain quiet
• The crew on board to be in on it. Or the passengers that were hijackers to be so good at hijacking that they could seize the plane without a whisper leaking out
• Multiple countries faking or losing radar data
• Inmarsat faking their data, then releasing it to let everyone see how clever they were at faking it
• All the countries the plane overflew not seeing anything
• A way to get rid of a few hundred bodies
• A way to hide a large aircraft
• And most importantly, a reason for hijacking the plane and then not making any demands whatsoever

Or possibly a single person (pilot / co-pilot) diverted it to the middle of the ocean in a suicide bid.

Yep the hijacking by the black helicopter brigade sounds far more plausible.

Originally Posted by Derek

So it was either diverted to an isolated airfield which would need:

• An isolated airfield with the associated workers to all remain quiet
• The crew on board to be in on it. Or the passengers that were hijackers to be so good at hijacking that they could seize the plane without a whisper leaking out
• Multiple countries faking or losing radar data
• Inmarsat faking their data, then releasing it to let everyone see how clever they were at faking it
• All the countries the plane overflew not seeing anything
• A way to get rid of a few hundred bodies
• A way to hide a large aircraft
• And most importantly, a reason for hijacking the plane and then not making any demands whatsoever

Or possibly a single person (pilot / co-pilot) diverted it to the middle of the ocean in a suicide bid.

Yep the hijacking by the black helicopter brigade sounds far more plausible.

lol plenty of stuff goes on underground that no one ever hears of.

I really want a bare arse smiley that I can use when someone uses the rolleyes smilie at me

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

lol plenty of stuff goes on underground that no one ever hears of.

Plenty of isolated military and deserted ex-military airfields scattered all over the 'stans. The desire to acquire an aircraft for nefarious purposes could have been long in the planning.

In the absence of any evidence of its demise in the Indian ocean and very little effort put into looking on the equally possible northern route.

I really want a bare arse smiley that I can use when someone uses the rolleyes smilie at me

Will this do?

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

I have thought all along it was hijacked for a reason.

What's the motive ?,usually the motive is political and the hijackers do it in full view of the public so as to get their cause noticed by as many people as possible ,definitely not hijacked imo

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Plenty of isolated military and deserted ex-military airfields scattered all over the 'stans. The desire to acquire an aircraft for nefarious purposes could have been long in the planning.

In the absence of any evidence of its demise in the Indian ocean and very little effort put into looking on the equally possible northern route.

But how does a 777 get there without being seen or picked up on Radar? Even if you say Malaysia lost it and Pakistan didn't track it then it would still have had to go over Indian airspace, including the border with Pakistan, without being noticed?

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Damien

But how does a 777 get there without being seen or picked up on Radar? Even if you say Malaysia lost it and Pakistan didn't track it then it would still have had to go over Indian airspace, including the border with Pakistan, without being noticed?

Maybe it was: A bogus flight plan logged in advance, false call in as said bogy, a doctored or second transponder and it could have crossed any airspace with no questions asked. Remember the real transponders were turned off shortly before it deviated from its original flight path.

But if the transponder was doctored, it would have to have a flight plan logged (for the supposed "original" flight), and when it didn't arrive, there would have been a search for that missing plane.

If there wasn't a flight plan logged, the doctored transponder would have been logged as an unauthorised flight - seems to be getting very complicated.

[idi banashapan]

Originally Posted by Damien

But how does a 777 get there without being seen or picked up on Radar? Even if you say Malaysia lost it and Pakistan didn't track it then it would still have had to go over Indian airspace, including the border with Pakistan, without being noticed?

if it flew in the shadow of another aircraft, radars would only see one ping. if another country was involved, flying the aircraft in the shadow of another going to the same airspace would mask it's journey. if MH370 turned off the transponder and then flew less than around 3,500ft under or within range of another aircraft, this is a practical possibility.

DISCLAIMER
just because I typed it does not mean I believe it happened (before people start attacking me directly) - I am merely highlighting the possibility.

Other plausible options include;

the plane was accidentally shot down. that would absolutely result in a cover-up.

I high-tech hacking has been mentioned. which would have flown the aircraft on autopilot on a pre-programmed course and not allowed the pilots to resume manual control. the hacking could also have turned off the transponder and cut radio transmission. the person who came up with this actually trains and advised the government on anti-terrorism, so may know more than we do about how these systems work. linky

perhaps decompression on the aircraft killed everyone, or an internal fire. the plane would carry on following an autopilot course until it was out of fuel. at which point it would likely glide for another 10 minutes, reducing altitude from cruising height which was likely around 35,000ft before hitting water at about 600mph.

improbable does not mean impossible though. just because we, as regular civilians, cannot think of a motive for hijacking the plane, does not mean there was not one. for all we know, it might well be getting prepped for another 9/11 style attack, but on a much larger scale? as for 'conspiracy' theories, well some are obviously verging on absurd, such as invisibility cloaks and the such, but there are many reasons or ideas that are not far-fetched in the least.

best we can do is hold our hands up and simply say we do not know and be open to ideas. by dismissing things we think are not likely might we hinder is from finding out what happened. obviously, when I say 'we', I mean the official agencies looking for the plane. it's not like any of us are out there looking for it... what we on the forum think is totally irrelevant.