120M : Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Kushan

The torrenting mega-downloaders, at least the ones that have a constant and significant impact, are going to do that regardless of the state of the network or what ISP they're with.

When i do need to use torrents i just rent a seedbox for the month, that way i just ftp the stuff of the seedbox.

[craigj2k12]

Originally Posted by Sirius

When i do need to use torrents i just rent a seedbox for the month, that way i just ftp the stuff of the seedbox.

I dont see how that would differ from using the torrent itself

[Kabaal]

Originally Posted by craigj2k12

I dont see how that would differ from using the torrent itself

You don't upload anything with a seedbox, it does the uploading for you so doesn't affect the VM line.

I don't even FTP the files off mine anymore I just have XBMC pointed at my seedbox server as a content source so it streams directly from it.

[Rankrotten]

Arranged to replace my VMNG300 with a Superhub 2 on the phone - the offshore agent wanted £20 postage but got it down to £5 but she insisted this came with a new 12 month contract. Is that correct to re-contract for an equipment upgrade I should already have on the 120mb tier?

[Sephiroth]

No it's not correct. The VMNG300 is officially out of spec for your network and VM are obliged to replace it. There is an argument to be had about whether it's a SH1 or SH2 and that coukld be resolved by calling VM's Retentions department and telling them how enraged you are at being forced onto a new contract. You weren't thinking of leaving before the insult and now you are!

[jb66]

A service technician would swap a vmng300 with a superhub v1. When the speed upgrade happens you get a sh2

[Rankrotten]

The speed upgrade has already happened for some people in my area who pre-registered but it looks likely that the new config has not been pushed over to the VMNG300, will see what happens when I swap it with a super hub (hopefully v2) next thursday.

The old modem has been great on 100 then 120mbit with no complaints for the past few years considering it was supplied with one of the first 50mbit installs. Can't see it working on 152 hence the swap over.

[craigj2k12]

Originally Posted by Kabaal

You don't upload anything with a seedbox, it does the uploading for you so doesn't affect the VM line.

I don't even FTP the files off mine anymore I just have XBMC pointed at my seedbox server as a content source so it streams directly from it.

you dont have to seed a torrent to download it

[ianch99]

Isn't it better to download using http or ftp protocols? Wouldn't this have less impact on the other users of your (home) network?

[Sephiroth]

.... never mind other users on the VM segment.

[Ignitionnet]

VM's problem to provision their network to cope with demand or change their policies to control that demand, not an individual customer's.

[Sephiroth]

The Kraken awakens.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

VM's problem to provision their network to cope with demand or change their policies to control that demand, not an individual customer's.

I don't understand this ..

[Kushan]

In fairness, I agree with him. I stand by the controversial opinion of - you're paying for the service VM is meant to provide. If VM is unable to provide that service, they shouldn't be selling it.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by ianch99

I don't understand this ..

It is not a customer's job to police how they use VM's network, it's up to VM to either engineer their network so that it can handle customer usage or to ensure that there are policies in place to keep customer usage down.

According to VM every customer has every right to download as much as they want whenever they want, hence the service other people in the same area may receive isn't anyone's problem apart from VM's.

I was responding to Seph.

As far as home network impact goes if a home network can't handle P2P it sucks and needs upgrading. In this day and age with memory being as cheap as it is there is absolutely no excuse for a router to not be able to handle several thousand simultaneous connections.

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Originally Posted by Sirius

When i do need to use torrents i just rent a seedbox for the month, that way i just ftp the stuff of the seedbox.

Any time I want to use them the traffic gets split between two ISPs so I'd hope neither can really complain too much.