Malaysian Airline plane disappears

[Mr Angry]

Point of fact.

David Copperfield and flight MH370 have never been seen in the same room.

[Sirius]

I just love a good conspiracy.

Originally Posted by Sirius

I just love a good conspiracy.

not conspiracy ,alternative way of thinking

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I just love a good conspiracy.

That's just it, none of the crap about the plane has been anything close to 'good'.

[Uncle Peter]

With the lack of debris there might be a fair old chunk of fuselage down there assuming the search box is as locked down as they think it is. Magnetic Anomaly Detection would be handy if it weren't for the fact that modern airliners are manufactured with a lot of composite materials. This sonar scanning drone is the only hope now.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Or.......

Have rational discussion and investigations, know the difference between possible and probable, and not fit the evidence to the theory is another way of approaching it....

Not sure that's the way forward when you consider just how outrageous some of the things they've done are, I mean collude with organised crime to invade a sovereign nation and as for the Rothschild's David mentioned aren't they the family that funded all sides in the napoleonic wars and have pretty much financed every war since, nice people and this is the stuff we know, what we don't know defies rational discussion so best not to discuss it at all imo until the truth finally comes out. This plane probably is at the bottom of the ocean but considering what we know of the good guys governments I wouldn't bet the house on it.

[LondonRoad]

There is strong evidence that the plane was clipped by a Fiat Uno causing it to veer towards a grassy knowl.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by LondonRoad

There is strong evidence that the plane was clipped by a Fiat Uno causing it to veer towards a grassy knowl.

And this guy was the pilot

[LondonRoad]

Originally Posted by Russ

And this guy was the pilot

It all makes perfect sense now. If you play heartbreak hotel backwards at 33 rpm it has all been predicted.

There are further clues from "in the ghetto". Ghetto is an old Afghan word for "clearing of sufficient width and length for a boeing 777 to land"'

It's incredible how clarity can strike while stuck in the house waiting for a delivery.

[thenry]

Originally Posted by Uncle Peter

Looks like it has begun. Ocean Shield all stop and drifting:

The search area for the missing Malaysian jet has proved too deep for a robotic submarine which was hauled back to the surface of the Indian Ocean less than halfway through its first seabed hunt for wreckage and the all-important black boxes, authorities said on Tuesday.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/04/1...#storylink=cpy

trial and error or incompetence? surely they would have known how deep the sea is.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by thenry

trial and error or incompetence? surely they would have known how deep the sea is.

Possibly just teething troubles with it, of course any problems that happen day in, day out with deep sea surveying will be seized upon by some as proof of a wider conspiracy.

On a side note Pakistan have denied any involvement and will be sending their best deep sea diver to help. Gandeep Undawatter is expected onsite any day.

[Uncle Peter]

Originally Posted by thenry

trial and error or incompetence? surely they would have known how deep the sea is.

Much of the deep ocean covering the planet hasn't been mapped in detail, certainly not enough detail to be used as navigation charts. Besides, fleet submarines don't operate that deep so there's never been a pressing need for such an accurate view of the surface up until now.

I'm assuming that Bluefin 21 uses some kind of terrain following system to remain a certain height above the seabed hence this safety mechanism kicking in.

[thenry]

Can't the seabed/depth be detected by any ship in the area?

[Uncle Peter]

Originally Posted by thenry

Can't the seabed/depth be detected by any ship in the area?

Not reliably no. Firstly it's a long, long way down and the other reason is that any deep body of sea is such that there are a number of layers at varying temperatures: thermal layers which attenuate or scatter sound and sonar signals.

Military submarines hide in different thermal layers to avoid detection by enemy sonar. This is also one of the reasons why sumbarines use towed arrays: the sub can cruise at the bottom of a thermal layer but drag the towed array through the layer below to hear what's happening while minimising the chance of detection.

[Derek]

Officials searching for the missing Malaysian Airlines plane say material has washed ashore off the coast of Western Australia.

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) is now examining photographs of the objects, which have been secured by police in the region, to establish whether they are linked to flight MH370.

I wonder what the debris is?