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			Sounds fair - I can't see the French paying for a TGV line to Berlin....
		 
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					Originally Posted by Mr Angry  More predictions of doom |  Common sense really, if Salmond gets his way we are on our own and have to pay our way. 
 
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  Sounds fair - I can't see the French paying for a TGV line to Berlin.... |  Yep. Although if it was going the other way...
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					Originally Posted by Derek  Common sense really, if Salmond gets his way we are on our own and have to pay our way. |  Exactly. 
 
In reality you can't lose what you don't have in the first place.
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  ??????????
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 |  Oh yes, I'm a massive fan of public funds being abused after all. Tbh I swing between pro independence and complete indifference so after all the lies and ineptitude the snp have shown if the Scots still vote for them after their hands are caught in the cookie jar then frankly they'll get all they deserve.
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			http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...orge-robertson
Scottish independence: Better Together is truly scraping the barrel now 
George Robertson and his ilk are hardly of the calibre needed to boost the campaign against independence
 
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 The Observer, Sunday 13 April 2014
 
 
 In Eamonn's Bar off East 45th Street in Midtown Manhattan last week, the talk turned to Scottish independence. The young fella with the funky glasses and the tartan tie to my left is a bar owner himself and a native New Yorker and had observed the tartan parade down Madison Avenue that had kicked off Scotland Week in the US the day before.
 
 Both he and Sean, the bartender, were knowledgeable about the Scottish independence debate and aware that the polls are pointing to a close finish in September.
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http://www.heraldscotland.com/commen...tland.23946243 
Goodbye to Labour complacency and 'forces of darkness' ... hello new Scotland
 
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		| Iain Macwhirter Columnist
 Sunday 13 April 2014
 Watching the SNP at their Aberdeen conference this weekend, on the eve of a referendum on independence, I couldn't help thinking how extraordinary it is that this is happening at all.
 
 The party may be 80 years old, but it spent most of that time in obscurity. It was Labour that led the drive to restore the Scottish Parliament in the 1980s. In the early years of Holyrood, the SNP seemed to be going backwards, and many of the measures that are now seen as SNP policies - free higher education, personal care - were actually products of the Labour-led coalition. This is the "free stuff" policy that Labour policy advisers like John McTernan now speak of with contempt.
 
 Labour allowed the SNP to become the party of the NHS, nuclear disarmament and free education, while it has become the party of the benefits cap, immigration controls and weapons of mass destruction. I sometimes have to mentally pinch myself to remember that this is actually the case. But it is. Last month, Labour MPs voted overwhelmingly for the Coalition's arbitrary welfare cap - surely a defining moment in British politics.
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			Jimi what will you do if (when) it all goes wrong?
 Clearly you're full of confidence, have you got a Plan B if it doesn't work out?
 
 As an Englishman myself, I'm not terribly bothered either way,and doubt the decision, whatever way it falls will make an ounce of difference to my life.
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			Labour will always have a chance of getting stronger if the independence vote is yes jimi. Especially when the SNP double up to support them.          |  
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			Not sure what those stories are trying to say to be honest. 
 After the nonsense Fat Eck was spouting at the SNP conf I linked to earlier they are the ones scraping the barrel. No plan B and also no real concrete plan A.
 
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					Originally Posted by Osem  Rent a nat?     
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					Originally Posted by Osem  Rent a nat?     
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					Originally Posted by techguyone  Jimi what will you do if (when) it all goes wrong?
 Clearly you're full of confidence, have you got a Plan B if it doesn't work out?
 
 As an Englishman myself, I'm not terribly bothered either way,and doubt the decision, whatever way it falls will make an ounce of difference to my life.
 |  Good tae see you join the debate mate. 
I have no worries if there's no plan b simply because we don't need one. 
What really sticks in my throat is the utter nonsense that is being spouted by BT. 
A few examples,Justine Greening in yesterday's Sunday Times that a yes vote would be a huge blow tae Third World countries,pure nonsense,Scotland ( oh yes we do) donates  more per head tae charity than the rest of the U.K. 
I won't even start on that ******** of a man? George Robertson,a Lord? Aye right!!! 
Passports to enter England,Currency,no chance,we're not getting it,blah blah blah,yes we are. 
Trident,you can have it,thank you. 
We'd lose tv shows,wow,the **** that comes from the BBC,you can have that tae. 
Roaming charges,the guy who thought that up needs tae be certified and licked up for life. 
I could go on and on,the list is endless but what I will say is that many folk in Scotland are disheartened by the fact that no matter whether NL or Tories are in power everything is based in London,money wise. 
Cornwall wants Independence,word is that Yorkshire wants it tae,I might be wrong but the break up will happen eventually,maybe not in my lifetime but it will come.
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