TV licence non payment could be made a civil offence

Originally Posted by Mythica

What's Sky Sports got to do with the BBC?

Your confused .Sirius has used that example by saying he feels aggrieved that even though he watches no BBC channels he must still pay if he wants to watch a live sport event on Sky ,which is a fair point but can easily be settled by funding through general taxation

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Mythica

What's Sky Sports got to do with the BBC?

Because if i watch sky sports live i have to pay the Tv TAX to which the BBC is given the money not Sky. As i pointed out that's like shopping in Morrison's and having to pay Tesco for doing so.

[Gary L]

And because there's more and more supermarkets and corner shops springing up. and you having to pay just one a 'shopping tax' when you don't even shop there. and the other supermarkets and corner shops don't get a cut of it.

that's why it's out of date and is seen for what it is in this day and age. and will be finished.

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Not paying the BBC tax should never have been a criminal offence in the first place. Sledge hammer to crack a nut IMO.

Its days must surely be numbered with much viewing moving to on-demand and on-line services the huge majority of which are NOT BBC sourced.

Wasn't there some research recently that established that a subscription based BBC would actually achieve a higher revenue for itself?

No, it was some modelling work, which appears to state that people would pay £9 per month for Radio 4 alone

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01...cher_mps_here/

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by martyh

Your confused .Sirius has used that example by saying he feels aggrieved that even though he watches no BBC channels he must still pay if he wants to watch a live sport event on Sky ,which is a fair point but can easily be settled by funding through general taxation

No I'm not.

You said we have a choice. I want to watch Sky Sports but have to pay the BBC. Not only is that not a choice but it's also not fair.

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Because if i watch sky sports live i have to pay the Tv TAX to which the BBC is given the money not Sky. As i pointed out that's like shopping in Morrison's and having to pay Tesco for doing so.

Yes that was my point. I replied to someone who said I had a choice.

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by Mythica

No I'm not.

You said we have a choice. I want to watch Sky Sports but have to pay the BBC. Not only is that not a choice but it's also not fair.

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Yes that was my point. I replied to someone who said I had a choice.

Of course you have a choice you don't have to watch Sky Sports. It's just not a fair choice you have to make.

Same as watching TV at all - you don't have to do that either. Still a choice - just not a fair one.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw

Of course you have a choice you don't have to watch Sky Sports. It's just not a fair choice you have to make.

Same as watching TV at all - you don't have to do that either. Still a choice - just not a fair one.

Then it needs to be rectified so there is a level playing field, ether spread the TV tax across ALL providers or make the BBC pay there own way like all other providers. The BBC's days of running to the Government cap in hand shouting please sir i have wasted all the money should be stopped. The BBC should be made to WORK for every single penny just like every other tv provider and the TAX should be shared around ALL the providers if it is to stay.

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Then it needs to be rectified so there is a level playing field, ether spread the TV tax across ALL providers or make the BBC pay there own way like all other providers. The BBC's days of running to the Government cap in hand shouting please sir i have spent it all can i have some more should be removed and they should be made to WORK for every single penny just like every other tv provider.

I don't really disagree with you - I'm just not that fussed about it all. If things change I'll probably get worked up about it.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw

Of course you have a choice you don't have to watch Sky Sports. It's just not a fair choice you have to make.

Same as watching TV at all - you don't have to do that either. Still a choice - just not a fair one.

Well if you want to play the pedantic game then I'm off.

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by Mythica

Well if you want to play the pedantic game then I'm off.

Fair enough.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw

I don't really disagree with you - I'm just not that fussed about it all. If things change I'll probably get worked up about it.

Indeed however for me its over a £140 a year that i would prefer i spent on something that i had a choice to pay on and that benefited me.

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Indeed however for me its over a £140 a year that i would prefer i spent on something i had a choice to pay it on that i fell is a benefit to me.

I can fully appreciate that - It'd wind me up. I know I only pay half that but I am locked into having to pay it at the moment. At the end of that I can dump it completely (If Natalie lets me) but then I don't watch sport at all so that would work for me. I definitely don't think it's a fair situation and hope it all gets worked out, but I won't hold my breath.

I expect the ondemand thing to change and they expect me to pay then. It'd probably get me worked up then .

Originally Posted by Mythica

No I'm not.

You said we have a choice. I want to watch Sky Sports but have to pay the BBC. Not only is that not a choice but it's also not fair.

I said you have a "choice of sorts" and you do ,you can watch on demand content if you wish and avoid paying the licence ,in fact over a 100,000 people reckon that's what they do when they go in front of the magistrates,as said though it's not the best choice but still a choice

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by martyh

I said you have a "choice of sorts" and you do ,you can watch on demand content if you wish and avoid paying the licence ,in fact over a 100,000 people reckon that's what they do when they go in front of the magistrates,as said though it's not the best choice but still a choice

So how do i watch the super league game on a Friday night via sky which i pay a subscription for ( because i have a choice to) which is NOT then available on demand. So if i do watch it live i must pay the TV tax to the BBC who then gets paid for something they don't provide, have nothing to do with and therefore should not benefit from. The BBC should be made to provide a decoder box that then allows those who wish to watch the bbc the ability to do so for the same cost as the TV Tax. If other providers can do it so can the BBC

Originally Posted by Sirius

Then it needs to be rectified so there is a level playing field, ether spread the TV tax across ALL providers or make the BBC pay there own way like all other providers. The BBC's days of running to the Government cap in hand shouting please sir i have wasted all the money should be stopped. The BBC should be made to WORK for every single penny just like every other tv provider and the TAX should be shared around ALL the providers if it is to stay.

The difference is that the other providers are commercial enterprises the BBC isn't ,i do agree however that things must change .The BBC should be much more accountable instead of the old boys club it is perceived to be now .Possibly separating the news and education side from the entertainment side is an option

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Originally Posted by Sirius

So how do i watch the super league game on a Friday night via sky which i pay a subscription for ( because i have a choice to) which is NOT then available on demand. So if i do watch it live i must pay the TV tax to the BBC who then gets paid for something they don't provide, have nothing to do with and therefore should not benefit from.

like i said it is a choice of sorts ,just not the choice you want .There is no way to make it fair to everybody and at the moment a licence of £145 p/a is the fairest way all round imo