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			22-02-2014, 21:35
			
			
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				That's just pathetic nonsense ,there is no "them and us" that is a myth started by people like you ,Tiz and Gary .The only issue i and most normal people have is with the workshy ,lead swingers and fakers ,NOT with people in genuine difficulty. 
			
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 but they are getting hurt more than the others and you accepting the policies accept the collateral damage which is what I have issue with
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			22-02-2014, 21:49
			
			
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			I've tried being reasonable in this thread and got nothing back from you Marty except your perception of the how the system works and throwing out assumption after assumption if you looked you'd have seen I rarely agree with tiz or Gary yet now according to you I'm the same lol.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			22-02-2014, 21:50
			
			
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				That's just pathetic nonsense ,there is no "them and us" that is a myth started by people like you ,Tiz and Gary .The only issue i and most normal people have is with the workshy ,lead swingers and fakers ,NOT with people in genuine difficulty. 
			
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 Well you're them, and we're us. so there's your 'them and us'?
  
Dave's 'them and us' is those working, and those that aren't.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			22-02-2014, 23:52
			
			
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 "Benefits made me 23st"  -  err, no, binging on food made you 23st.   
After reading it I wonder if 23 is her IQ as well.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			24-02-2014, 12:21
			
			
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 And those houses cost nothing to buy in the first place? Where would the tenants stay if somebody didn't rent the properties out. Renting works in France and Germany and they don't constantly bitch about it.
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			24-02-2014, 12:27
			
			
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				And those houses cost nothing to buy in the first place? Where would the tenants stay if somebody didn't rent the properties out. Renting works in France and Germany and they don't constantly bitch about it. 
 
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 That is not the point he makes money from housing benefit, then slams the benefits he is benefiting from through his tenants, the man is a total hypocrite ... he is making an income out of the benefits he profits from talk about biting the hand that feeds you ... Once again the rich getting richer from the poor ...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			24-02-2014, 12:29
			
			
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			I'm just glad that it's all turning around eventually. 
people are starting to see what's going on behind the smokescreen. 
  
the truth is that everybody is on the fiddle and take. 
we live for money. 
these people make money out of the very people they criticise. 
biggest load of hypocrites there is. 
  
To put it into context how this is. 
  
it's a bit like say you have a PM like Dave. and he keeps going on about being anti drugs and he's going to clamp down on it really hard. 
  
and then 2 weeks later he got arrested for selling coke to some rich boys.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			24-02-2014, 12:33
			
			
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				And those houses cost nothing to buy in the first place? Where would the tenants stay if somebody didn't rent the properties out. Renting works in France and Germany and they don't constantly bitch about it. 
 
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 plenty of people in work rent
 
you tell me if there will ever be an end of the drivel defence of these hypocrites in power?
 
Never been on a French or German forum to know what they do or do not bitch about TBH
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			24-02-2014, 18:16
			
			
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				That is not the point he makes money from housing benefit, then slams the benefits he is benefiting from through his tenants, the man is a total hypocrite ... he is making an income out of the benefits he profits from talk about biting the hand that feeds you ... Once again the rich getting richer from the poor ... 
			
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 What a load of rubbish .He belongs to a party that is cutting HB so  the company will make less .He is only 1 of 6 directors of the company and looking at the below link i would doubt the Mirrors claim that he "rakes in " £625,000 and even if he did someone has to provide housing to unemployed people so what is the problem ?
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			25-02-2014, 07:41
			
			
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			Those accounts are key financials and the company exercises the right of a total exemption so the Mirror has probably studied the actual accounts.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				What a load of rubbish .He belongs to a party that is cutting HB so the company will make less .He is only 1 of 6 directors of the company and looking at the below link i would doubt the Mirrors claim that he "rakes in " £625,000 and even if he did someone has to provide housing to unemployed people so what is the problem ? 
			
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IMO he is a a hypocritical person. Richest MP in Britain slams welfare state but makes £625k a year in housing benefit, but he will quite gladly take this benefit through his tenants  through their housing benefit, the welfare state makes him and thousands and other's like him even richer. Without this benefit I wonder if  most of his properties would be empty, who know's ... the problem is he is slating a benefit he benefits from therefore making him a hypocrite IMO ... maybe the Mirror is wrong, like you say you doubt he makes that amount, but at the end of the day he still is making out the benefits he slates ...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				An internal memo has revealed that the Department of Work and Pensions has stopped outsourcing company Atos from carrying out repeat assessments on people currently claiming work-related disability benefits. 
 
The department’s staff have been told to leave all current employment and support allowance (ESA) claimants on their benefit, without repeat medical checks, until another company can be found to do work capability assessments (WCAs).
			
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 Interesting I wonder if it'll be sorted before November when I'm due.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Interesting I wonder if it'll be sorted before November when I'm due. 
			
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 Is that your ESA dilli?.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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