Ban smoking in cars, says British Medical Association

[Dai]

Pretty standard political tactics where the argument is weak.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo

[toonlight]

Originally Posted by Tuftus

Nanny state at it's finest.

Yes, I smoke.

Yes it's pretty lame, from the BMA .......I wonder are they going to say anything about the toxic poisons they push that kills people over the years? + they call them medicine or cures to common illness hummm

Watch this space as they will (BMA) will put out some fudged out white paper on how evil smoking is to all in cars or children with parents.........
Tell you the truth, I grew up with one smoker parent, then other around that where smoking in my face or around me....guess what no problems even on a full medical check (work purposes). Oh yes I did have long/short car trips in car full of smokers smoke hanging about even to the old type smokers social clubs while I was growing up - you get use to it ! I do like the golden virgina tobacco pipe smoke smell, no thing like it even a good cigar & no I'm not a smoker even after all that

toonlight

Excellent evidenceless ad hominem attack on the BMA there....

[Pog66]

Originally Posted by devilincarnate

I do smoke and have kids (my parents smoked and it never did me any harm)

...other than you also taking up smoking?

[Gary L]

They're still talking about introducing this.
fined if a policeman spots you smoking in the car where there's a child.

I presume the child is up to the age of 16.
so you got cars with 2 15yr old kids in and the driver is smoking.
policeman pulls the car over. and the driver is 17 so he scratches his head.
and gets him really puzzled when he sees the 2 15yr olds smoking.

just make it law. who cares.
there's no police on the roads as it is. and they can't stop people using their mobiles as it is. it's only the police who can do anything about it. so just make it law and shut up.

and then you got electronic cigs.

It brings up a few good arguments.
you have to remember that you can only be fined if you consent to it. in the way that they'll hope you'll accept the punishment.
so say you get stopped for smoking with a child in the car. and the child is smoking themselves?
suppose you say I refuse to accept the fine. what can he do?
take them up on the offer of it going to court?

what happens in court when you're being 'charged' for smoking in a car where there's a child. and they get told the child was smoking themselves? they can't blame you for their smoking. she's not your child. and how can they fine you when the idiot smokes themselves anyway?

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Wouldn't it be good if someone started a campaign where drivers all over the country with kids in their cars pull over legally at the side of the road and stand around their cars having a fag. LOL

Originally Posted by Gary L

They're still talking about introducing this.
fined if a policeman spots you smoking in the car where there's a child.

I presume the child is up to the age of 16.
so you got cars with 2 15yr old kids in and the driver is smoking.
policeman pulls the car over. and the driver is 17 so he scratches his head.
and gets him really puzzled when he sees the 2 15yr olds smoking.

just make it law. who cares.
there's no police on the roads as it is. and they can't stop people using their mobiles as it is. it's only the police who can do anything about it. so just make it law and shut up.

and then you got electronic cigs.

It brings up a few good arguments.
you have to remember that you can only be fined if you consent to it. in the way that they'll hope you'll accept the punishment.
so say you get stopped for smoking with a child in the car. and the child is smoking themselves?
suppose you say I refuse to accept the fine. what can he do?
take them up on the offer of it going to court?

what happens in court when you're being 'charged' for smoking in a car where there's a child. and they get told the child was smoking themselves? they can't blame you for their smoking. she's not your child. and how can they fine you when the idiot smokes themselves anyway?

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Wouldn't it be good if someone started a campaign where drivers all over the country with kids in their cars pull over legally at the side of the road and stand around their cars having a fag. LOL

So you think it's ok to smoke with a 7 year old in car, when the child has no say over the fact that they are potentially having their lungs destroyed?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Top banana

So you think it's ok to smoke with a 7 year old in car, when the child has no say over the fact that they are potentially having their lungs destroyed?

Does he or she smoke?

they have no say about the parents smoking in the house around them either.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Top banana

So you think it's ok to smoke with a 7 year old in car, when the child has no say over the fact that they are potentially having their lungs destroyed?

Frankly TB any parent who smokes in the car with their children is irresponsible to say the least and should not be subjecting their children to it.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by denphone

Frankly TB any parent who smokes in the car with their children is irresponsible to say the least and should not be subjecting their children to it.

I can't imagine why anyone would want to do that, let alone a parent.

[Gary L]

It's ok saying all this. and adding more and more rules and such.
but you have to remember that the only people who can enforce this is the police.

are the children safe because you assume the police will have it covered?
no. because we have no police as it is. and they can't stop the mobile phone thing either.

if they're going to do it. then do it properly.
make smoking around children in the home illegal too.
unless you can do that. then you're not really doing it for the children.
you're letting a lot of children down.

now you're supposed to say "how are they going to police it?"

If they allowed society to turn against each other. then we could beat an offender up if we caught them using a mobile phone. smoking in a car with children. smoking around children in the home. not going to work everyday like everybody else.

there's no point grassing someone up who was smoking around children. by the time the police come out to them it's long since happened.

Or people could just not be thoughtless and selfish by smoking in the car if children are present, and there would be no problem...

[Gary L]

That's probably already the case. Hugh.

Not a problem, then, as no one would be charged.

Job done!

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Not a problem, then, as no one would be charged.

Job done!

But it keeps the non smoking hippies happy.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Or people could just not be thoughtless and selfish by smoking in the car if children are present, and there would be no problem...

Now there's an idea...