General : Essential Family Collection - VM's response to BT?

[HDFootyMan]

Just realised something about the new Essential Family collection - it (potentially) prevents me from moving to BT.

BT's top triple-play package with extra channels in HD (TV Entertainment +
HD Extra + Unlimited BT Infinity 2) works out to around the same price as VM's Essential Family Collection when prepaying line rental on both platforms.

BT wins out on pure broadband speed (76Mb vs 30Mb - pending VM's BB upgrade to 50Mb) and just about on price (£33 + £3 for HD Extra vs £39 for VM XL) but VM wins hands down on channels (200+), HD content (43 channels vs 15) and the better PVR (TiVo vs YouView).

BT's TV Entertainment + HD Extra + Unlimited BT Infinity 2 : £36
VM's Essential Family Collection: £39

Isn't competition great?

I have just signed up today

[clayts]

Nice package, pretty similar to what I have already (except I'm on 20 MB BB until the upgrade) but I have Sky Sports & Movies in HD as well which actually still works out cheaper than this deal (due to a healthy loyalty discount).

Good competition vs BT Youview though.

(Don't forget you still need to factor in line rental which tends to wreck these decent deals)

Originally Posted by clayts

Nice package, pretty similar to what I have already (except I'm on 20 MB BB until the upgrade) but I have Sky Sports & Movies in HD as well which actually still works out cheaper than this deal (due to a healthy loyalty discount).

Good competition vs BT Youview though.

(Don't forget you still need to factor in line rental which tends to wreck these decent deals)

Be very careful, check out my thread on the broadband section of this forum link here

Unless you have a super hub 1 or 2 apart from one model vm cable modems are not capable of the upcoming speed upgrade!

[clayts]

I already have the super hub (as a modem, use my own router) - sent free when they last upgraded my speed from 10 to 20.

Originally Posted by clayts

I already have the super hub (as a modem, use my own router) - sent free when they last upgraded my speed from 10 to 20.

No problem, in my case I didn't I got a replacement cable modem when my old one was faulty a few years ago!

[andy_m]

I didn't think anybody was still on 20mb?

As an extra pro/con for the op, obviously whether TiVo is better than youview is debatable, but I was looking into the possibility of moving recently and didn't realise that you can't yet record the non freeview channels with BT.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by andy_m

I didn't think anybody was still on 20mb?

As an extra pro/con for the op, obviously whether TiVo is better than youview is debatable, but I was looking into the possibility of moving recently and didn't realise that you can't yet record the non freeview channels with BT.

You can record all the channels now , it was part of a recent YouView update.

https://community.youview.com/youvie..._youview_on_bt

[clayts]

Originally Posted by andy_m

I didn't think anybody was still on 20mb?

http://prntscr.com/2g3npa

I'm one who has had each and every update since my first connection to NTL at 512K

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by andy_m

I didn't think anybody was still on 20mb?

Most people on M or L will still be on 20Mbit - as the upgrade was from 10Mb > 20Mb with an opt in, due to the kit change required, to 30Mb.

As part of the next set of upgrades M/L 20 and L 30 are all offered to go to 50Mbit.

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Most people on M or L will still be on 20Mbit - as the upgrade was from 10Mb > 20Mb with an opt in, due to the kit change required, to 30Mb.

As part of the next set of upgrades M/L 20 and L 30 are all offered to go to 50Mbit.

Ben I suppose that is a lot of cable modems to replace?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan

BT wins out on pure broadband speed (76Mb vs 30Mb - pending VM's BB upgrade to 50Mb)

Presumably BT's broadband speed will reduce when you are watching and/or viewing a YouView IPTV channel or catch-up/on-demand service?

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by mhatter67

Ben I suppose that is a lot of cable modems to replace?

Yup, it's one on the reasons that the upgrades don't all happen at the same time, but have a schedule

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Yup, it's one on the reasons that the upgrades don't all happen at the same time, but have a schedule

Looks like I jumped the queue when I rung retentions the other day saying I was not happy with my 20mb L broadband, seems a bit silly now when I will be upgraded to a super hub anyway

[andy_m]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

You can record all the channels now , it was part of a recent YouView update.

https://community.youview.com/youvie..._youview_on_bt

Cheers! I think my original info was from you that it was on the way and it's obviously now here.