Yet again - farcical words from Cameron

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Trussell Trust.
You did ask.

Not sure that a "need" was the reason for any scuffle.
Crush chaos at Ikea store opening

Actually I didn't ask, I wondered how long it would take for someone to attempt to tell me something I already knew

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by alferret

Arthur, your 15 years older than me, I was brought up on frugality, I wore second, nay third hand clothes until I was 13 or so. You are not the only one who has had a hard life and like many of us who frequent this board we have all had to make sacrifices. The vast majority of us fully understand what's going on in the real world, we have accepted the mistakes of past governments, we live with those consequences and lead our lives accordingly. But you seem help bent on trolling this site with venomous non factual opinions that serve no purpose but your own warped ideological mind.

I honestly don't understand how he gets away with posting his blatant factless rubbish daily, if me or you were to troll the forums like that with rubbish threads and posts we would be dealt with straight away.

Originally Posted by alferret

Arthur, your 15 years older than me, I was brought up on frugality, I wore second, nay third hand clothes until I was 13 or so. You are not the only one who has had a hard life and like many of us who frequent this board we have all had to make sacrifices. The vast majority of us fully understand what's going on in the real world, we have accepted the mistakes of past governments, we live with those consequences and lead our lives accordingly. But you seem help bent on trolling this site with venomous non factual opinions that serve no purpose but your own warped ideological mind.

That's just it though ,being roughly the same age as you i remember as you do but we saw wearing hand me downs etc. as normal ,i certainly don't think i had a hard life

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I honestly don't understand how he gets away with posting his blatant factless rubbish daily, if me or you were to troll the forums like that with rubbish threads and posts we would be dealt with straight away.

The thing with facts is they can be twisted to suit almost any political agenda, I'd go as far as saying going on your personal experience is more reliable than going on some of facts posted here.

[alferret]

Originally Posted by martyh

That's just it though ,being roughly the same age as you i remember as you do but we saw wearing hand me downs etc. as normal ,i certainly don't think i had a hard life

Yea at the time it was normal, most of my mates and I were all the same and looking back I can see the hardships that we had to endure. Perspective and time changes those memories.

Originally Posted by Sirius

I honestly don't understand how he gets away with posting his blatant factless rubbish daily, if me or you were to troll the forums like that with rubbish threads and posts we would be dealt with straight away.

I find his posts amusing and also a little alarming that people with such single minded hatred for a politician can be let loose with a vote .
Arthur and others like him need to realise that Cameron has had to make some hard decisions and most have not been popular but they have been necessary.
Arthur grew up in the era when being on the dole was seen as shameful and lazy ,people used to do anything to get off the dole ,take any job ,hell i used to walk 3-4 miles to get to work but Arthur seems hell bent on slating a Government that wants to bring the old work ethics back, that i find confusing coming from someone of Arthurs generation.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by martyh

I find his posts amusing and also a little alarming that people with such single minded hatred for a politician can be let loose with a vote .
Arthur and others like him need to realise that Cameron has had to make some hard decisions and most have not been popular but they have been necessary.
Arthur grew up in the era when being on the dole was seen as shameful and lazy ,people used to do anything to get off the dole ,take any job ,hell i used to walk 3-4 miles to get to work but Arthur seems hell bent on slating a Government that wants to bring the old work ethics back, that i find confusing coming from someone of Arthurs generation.

When was that then?

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

The thing with facts is they can be twisted to suit almost any political agenda, I'd go as far as saying going on your personal experience is more reliable than going on some of facts posted here.

Facts are facts - people may extrapolate from those facts, but facts are something about which proof exists.

Not liking facts doesn't make them invalid - if one jumps from a 10 story building, 999 times out of a 1000 (if not a higher percentage) the jumper will die or be severely injured; just because we don't agree with that fact won't change it....

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Facts are facts - people may extrapolate from those facts, but facts are something about which proof exists.

Not liking facts doesn't make them invalid - if one jumps from a 10 story building, 999 times out of a 1000 (if not a higher percentage) the jumper will die or be severely injured; just because we don't agree with that fact won't change it....

What about misrepresented facts, you know the kind our politicians are famous for and as with all facts the devils in the detail which isn't always available to us plebs

[denphone]

Look Arthur has a right to post on here and l don't agree with a lot he has to say but this is a free democracy and its up to people to dispute it if they don't like the cut of his jib or vice versa.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I honestly don't understand how he gets away with posting his blatant factless rubbish daily, if me or you were to troll the forums like that with rubbish threads and posts we would be dealt with straight away.

Arthur is entitled to start threads on any subject he chooses, subject to the Forum's Terms and Conditions. The same as you, me or any other member. We do ask that if you are referring to an article, you provide a link if possible.

Whether we consider the thread "Rubbish" or not is immaterial. Looking at the Basement, I can see at least half a dozen threads I consider rubbish, but I can't delete them as posting rubbish threads is not against the forum rules. Even if it was, what I would call rubbish may well be different to what you would call rubbish.

Anyway, can we all get back to the topic please, and not discuss the posting styles of other members anymore?

[peanut]

I don't think it warrants a thread on its own, but Tories are well out for me as long as IDS is part of their party. As this is the main thing that affects me, the lies from this slimeball is just bang out of order. He makes Camoron look good and that's something.

Oh his latest stunt is turning up for a welfare review with armed guards / police with machine guns (pointed at the disabled and not down to the ground I must say).

Originally Posted by peanut

I don't think it warrants a thread on its own, but Tories are well out for me as long as IDS is part of their party. As this is the main thing that affects me, the lies from this slimeball is just bang out of order. He makes Camoron look good and that's something.

Oh his latest stunt is turning up for a welfare review with armed guards / police with machine guns (pointed at the disabled and not down to the ground I must say).

No he didn't

[peanut]

Originally Posted by martyh

No he didn't

Okay you know different. Fair enough.

[Osem]

Post the pics and show us all.