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Old 14-12-2013, 09:19   #1
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The Nightmare Before Christmas .

Whoever thought this up needs a slap .




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...tmas-poem.html

http://www.nottinghamshire.police.uk...mare-christmas

https://www.nottinghamshire.police.u...files/Poem.pdf
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Old 14-12-2013, 22:12   #2
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Re: The Nightmare Before Christmas .

Be about right for the old bill around here. Dumb as a sack of rocks!
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Old 15-12-2013, 07:39   #3
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Re: The Nightmare Before Christmas .

I do not see a problem with it myself. I do not see how it trivialises sex attacks either
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Old 15-12-2013, 09:26   #4
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Re: The Nightmare Before Christmas .

Sounds about right for Notts Police. Nothing shocks me where Notts Police are involved.
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Old 15-12-2013, 09:29   #5
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Re: The Nightmare Before Christmas .

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I do not see a problem with it myself. I do not see how it trivialises sex attacks either
Because whoever decided to use a poem written to entertain children to describe a rape clearly has no idea of what a real rape is like .
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Old 15-12-2013, 11:59   #7
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Because whoever decided to use a poem written to entertain children to describe a rape clearly has no idea of what a real rape is like .
I will accept that when someone who does says it
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Old 15-12-2013, 12:08   #8
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I will accept that when someone who does says it
They just did
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Old 15-12-2013, 12:12   #9
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They just did
so you have been raped then? at the end of the day that is the only way you would really know
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so you have been raped then? at the end of the day that is the only way you would really know
No i haven't but a close family member was at this time last year ,and believe me it wasn't "over in a flash" and it had nothing to with the guy simply taking what he wanted and the repercussions of the attack are still ongoing
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No i haven't but a close family member was at this time last year ,and believe me it wasn't "over in a flash" and it had nothing to with the guy simply taking what he wanted and the repercussions of the attack are still ongoing
Good post marty. I think you have explained it well.
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Old 15-12-2013, 23:28   #12
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Police continue with this sort of attitude and complain not enough rapes are reported surely there is someone within notts police with an iota of intelligence that could have stopped this stupid campaign. For those who really don't get it just as five seconds of intense pain seems longer a rape to a woman is never a "flash" thing and is ongoing sometimes for the rest of their life. It's the wording of the poem that trivialises rape and I cannot believe any semi intelligent person didn't see that long before it got to the printers. I'll concede it's a difficult subject to raise awareness of and is full of pitfalls but this clumsy attempt is more like something done as a competition in the canteen.
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Re: The Nightmare Before Christmas .

I think I understand the message they were trying to deliver but sadly its lost in translation. I don't think they meant to trivialise rape, just deliver a message that rape is bad and destroys lives.

They obviously thought changing the words of a christmas poem was the right way to highlight said message at this time of year, however the outcome and response was clearly not what they expected.
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Re: The Nightmare Before Christmas .

I think the poem is misjudged rather than bad as such. Reading through the poem it appears that the woman who is attacked in the poem has been out late at night, and gone home on her own. The poem appears to be intended as a warning against that.

The fact is that women do this. The time of year also means that a lot of people (male and female) are out, and have probably drunk a lot more than they can cope with. These can be easy targets for criminals of all sorts.

It doesn't help if they just get into the first car they see, as a lot do. A friend of mine, when she was single, used to come out for nights out. Many times I ended up taking her home in a cab even if the rest of my friends were staying out. This was purely because she had a tendency to get in the first car she saw, which was usually an illegal mini cab, and I don't think I could have forgiven myself if something had happened to her. Me being in the cab, being nearly six foot, with a large (and fairly muscular at that time) build ensured that nothing happened to her apart from she got out of the cab outside her house.

Every year, women stumble out of various pubs, bars and clubs at God knows what time and stumble in to the first cab they find. Some will end up being seriously attacked, and I think this poem is intended to make those who are going out think about how they are going to get home. I think we are relatively lucky in London because TFL spend a lot of money over christmas setting up, running and publicising numbers that you can text or ring to get phone numbers for licenced mini cab offices, and a lot of local mini cab offices offer iPhone and/or Android apps that you can use to call a cab without even speaking to someone. Handy if you are drunk and don't quite know where you are.



And. martyh, before you ask. Yes I do know someone who was raped, so have seen the effects first hand, particularly the fear.
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