MP's Pay - Page 5

idiosyncratic · 13-12-2013, 19:59

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Originally Posted by martyh

So that's in line with inflation then

Pretty much.

I wasn't sure about heero_yuy's suggestion about matching MP's pay to headteachers - many headteachers earn a lot more than MPs.

13-12-2013, 20:09

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Originally Posted by idiosyncratic

Pretty much.

I wasn't sure about heero_yuy's suggestion about matching MP's pay to headteachers - many headteachers earn a lot more than MPs.

Arthur does tend to get his facts mixed up

MP's pay as with any job should be high enough to attract the most skilled .We want skilled politicians (even more so now in the current social and economic climate ) so we should be prepared to pay for them ,that doesn't mean we should just give them an open cheque book as has been the case in the past ,they should be open to scrutiny when spending public money as they are now

idiosyncratic · 13-12-2013, 20:17

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

I was mentioning gearing rather than parity. It was just a suggestion to try and get them to be in the real world. In the absence of other ideas other than emnity.

I definitely agree there should be some kind of benchmark.

In my opinion it is, however, difficult to match the 'gearing' to the role - headteachers, for example, usually only attain that position after several years experience & training. An MP, when first elected, has none of that - perhaps a sliding scale based on number of years in the job could be appropriate?

13-12-2013, 20:28

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Originally Posted by idiosyncratic

I definitely agree there should be some kind of benchmark.

In my opinion it is, however, difficult to match the 'gearing' to the role - headteachers, for example, usually only attain that position after several years experience & training. An MP, when first elected, has none of that - perhaps a sliding scale based on number of years in the job could be appropriate?

How IPSA arrived at the figure is here ,makes for some interesting reading

http://parliamentarystandards.org.uk...9eb2d1d3&ID=27

idiosyncratic · 13-12-2013, 20:38

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Originally Posted by martyh

How IPSA arrived at the figure is here ,makes for some interesting reading

http://parliamentarystandards.org.uk...9eb2d1d3&ID=27

Thanks for that, it is interesting reading - especially the comments afterwards !

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

This where we can open a discussion. I'm not sure where an MP should be placed in our heirachy. There are those who consider them as the lowest of **** and should be treated accordingly. Whilst there are indeed those who have earnt that accolade there are
still MP's who do valuable work for their constituents.

My personal view is that the salary should be pitched at a level that discourages people from wanting to do the job, 'just for the money', but not so low that talented people, who could make a difference, don't bother.

- not easy!!

Arthurgray50@blu · 13-12-2013, 20:52

I don't give a monkeys as to what people say, MPs do not deserve a pay rise, when people in this country are suffering due to there cuts.

If they can get that sort of money as a pay rise, then then can stop making cuts. Its US that sare paying this money to them in our taxes.

And NO, they don't deserve this extra money. WILL, they be going to a food bank for Xmas dinner, will they hell. All they worry about is themself. WILL they give this extra money to charity, no. One MP said he deserves the pay increase.

13-12-2013, 21:00

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I don't give a monkeys as to what people say, MPs do not deserve a pay rise, when people in this country are suffering due to there cuts.

If they can get that sort of money as a pay rise, then then can stop making cuts. Its US that sare paying this money to them in our taxes.

And NO, they don't deserve this extra money. WILL, they be going to a food bank for Xmas dinner, will they hell. All they worry about is themself. WILL they give this extra money to charity, no. One MP said he deserves the pay increase.

Don't know what your whinging about you got yourself a pay rise twice that of most people in the public sector, including MP's

TheDaddy · 13-12-2013, 21:53

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Originally Posted by martyh

Arthur does tend to get his facts mixed up

MP's pay as with any job should be high enough to attract the most skilled .We want skilled politicians (even more so now in the current social and economic climate ) so we should be prepared to pay for them ,that doesn't mean we should just give them an open cheque book as has been the case in the past ,they should be open to scrutiny when spending public money as they are now

Do we want the best or the greediest, anyone willing to take a pay cut would be ideally suited to public service imo

Arthurgray50@blu · 14-12-2013, 18:13

This is what really infuriates me. MPs say they are entitled to get this pay rise.
Lets look at it this way.

MPs get everything and can claim on expenses. They don't need a salary. If they have to pay for staff, this is probably on expenses. why pay them a salary.

Why not pay them a commission, like sales rep. They get paid for what they achieve.

I know of a company in Middlesex, that takes on staff on commision basis only.

deadite66 · 14-12-2013, 18:43

They should link their pay to the minimum wage.
if they want more them up the minimum wage, if the economy can't afford it then they haven't done their job.

TheDaddy · 07-09-2014, 00:27

Mr boo from ipsa says it's going ahead, Dave might get my vote if he stops frowning and says goose to a boo and abolishes ipsa like he said

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...hdog-says.html

07-09-2014, 08:56

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Mr boo from ipsa says it's going ahead, Dave might get my vote if he stops frowning and says goose to a boo and abolishes ipsa like he said http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...hdog-says.html

I would sooner IPSA or a similar body be responsible for MP's pay than the ridiculous situation where MP's vote themselves a pay rise

deadite66 · 07-09-2014, 09:21

Cut the number of MP's by a 3rd then give them a pay rise.

Derek · 07-09-2014, 10:07

Peg their pay to 2 x the national average wage.

Let's face it paying extra hasn't vastly improved the calibre of MPs in recent years. Having a relative in one of the main parties is still the easiest way to get into Westminster.

**Maggy** · 07-09-2014, 11:10

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Originally Posted by Derek

Peg their pay to 2 x the national average wage. Let's face it paying extra hasn't vastly improved the calibre of MPs in recent years. Having a relative in one of the main parties is still the easiest way to get into Westminster.

Or a famous father like Fred Dineage..