MP's Pay

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

if they run the country effectively and efficiently then a million as they screw it up and never think ahead minimum wage

Trouble with that idea is that people who don't benefit from a parties term of office will think the country is being run badly and what about MP's in opposition ?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Given much of what we all pay for out of our flat income they claim as expenses and they already have a salary twice the average I don't think it's expecting much for them to forego pay rises as most in this country have for the last five years. When the country turns round and normal workers are back to getting pay rises then they can as well after all as Dave used to say "were all in it together".

Spot on Rizzy.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Given much of what we all pay for out of our flat income they claim as expenses and they already have a salary twice the average I don't think it's expecting much for them to forego pay rises as most in this country have for the last five years. When the country turns round and normal workers are back to getting pay rises then they can as well after all as Dave used to say "were all in it together".

Many expenses have been removed and they haven't had a pay rise in recent years .

Originally Posted by martyh

Trouble with that idea is that people who don't benefit from a parties term of office will think the country is being run badly and what about MP's in opposition ?

the system is wrong we do not need 2 or 3 parties we need independent brainiacs who do it for the right reasons. Paying a group of adults to sit in a hall and argue with each other or shout at each other while talking to a guy in the middle is beyond stupid imo

Most workers didn't get a pay rise this year and unlikely to get anything decent next year why should MP's be different and they seem to be claiming expenses as well as ever so doubtful they lost too much probably found new ways round new rules.

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

the system is wrong we do not need 2 or 3 parties we need independent brainiacs who do it for the right reasons. Paying a group of adults to sit in a hall and argue with each other or shout at each other while talking to a guy in the middle is beyond stupid imo

because that's how democracy works

[Arthurgray50@blu]

http://news.sky.com/story/1179344/po...not-paying-off

I suggest members read this article. It doesn't matter what independant body say the pay should be increased by 11%. This is totally disgusting, when the rest of the country is suffering large cuts.

I have just has my FIRST increase in wage in FIVE years. Its was 1%. which is £35.00 per month increase. We take our budget right down to the wire each month.

What all parties should be doing is to donate this increase to the food banks, charities etc. But l guarantee they won't.

David Cameron SHOULD be saying that this will not be accepted by any member of his party. But l am sure they will say that this is well deserved.

worth a read

http://parliamentarystandards.org.uk...9eb2d1d3&ID=24

Arthur, David Cameron (and Ed Miliband and Nick Clegg) are saying that this should not go ahead.

[denphone]

Indeed and they should be praised for that but the trouble is with many going through difficult moments financially to their own living standards and pay the vast majority of the public ain't going to be looking at it that way.

Originally Posted by martyh

because that's how democracy works

it does not work

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

it does not work

The fact you write that proves it does

[solitaire]

What I would like to know is, who set up the so called independent body which advises on MP's pay? It wasn't the MP's themselves was it, or is that just my cynical thinking. I just don't feel sorry for them not having a pay rise for a few years. Neither has most of the country.

Originally Posted by solitaire

What I would like to know is, who set up the so called independent body which advises on MP's pay? It wasn't the MP's themselves was it, or is that just my cynical thinking. I just don't feel sorry for them not having a pay rise for a few years. Neither has most of the country.

Your not required to feel sorry for them but they have the right to a fair wage for what is a pretty big gig ,obviously there has to be restrictions though ,i accept that, but a job with no job security needs to have a decent wage attached to it

[Ramrod]

Forget MP's, consider the eurocrats:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-revealed.html

the EU is operating 140 overseas delegations at an annual cost of more than £420 million.
29 EEAS officials earn a basic salary, excluding benefits, worth £150,000 a year, more than David Cameron as Prime Minister.

With generous benefits added in – such as an expat allowance, household allowance and child allowance – it is estimated that about 500 officials can earn more than the Prime Minister’s basic salary.

A senior diplomat on a basic salary of up to £114,000 will pay only about 15 per cent in tax.