23-11-2013, 13:32
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Re: Illegal cigarettes
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
i can solve it get rid of 90% of the tax then there will be no need for a black market .
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and then charge smokers for health treatment
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23-11-2013, 13:39
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Re: Illegal cigarettes
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and then charge smokers for health treatment
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and drivers /cyclists /runners /walkers /young /old etc etc don't be silly a person paying into the health service has a reasonable expectation to medical help
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23-11-2013, 13:42
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Re: Illegal cigarettes
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and drivers /cyclists /runners /walkers /young /old etc etc don't be silly a person paying into the health service has a reasonable expectation to medical help
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lol guess you are a smoker then
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23-11-2013, 13:45
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Re: Illegal cigarettes
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lol guess you are a smoker then
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no i'm not anymore - i'm also not a dictator .
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23-11-2013, 13:49
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Re: Illegal cigarettes
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no i'm not anymore - i'm also not a dictator .
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lol but you think the taxes on death sticks should be dropped??
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23-11-2013, 13:56
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Re: Illegal cigarettes
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lol but you think the taxes on death sticks should be dropped??
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i think if people wish to smoke they should be allowed to do so and not be penalized or treat differently to any one else -and death sticks really? what about death drinks -death foods etc etc etc ,we all have vices that help us get through the day .
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23-11-2013, 13:59
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Re: Illegal cigarettes
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i think if people wish to smoke they should be allowed to do so and not be penalized or treat differently to any one else -and death sticks really? what about death drinks -death foods etc etc etc ,we all have vices that help us get through the day .
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I agree and partake in none of the above
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23-11-2013, 14:55
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Re: Illegal cigarettes
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Don't drink. Don't smoke. What do you do? 
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martial arts and weight loss ( till christmas lol ) have partaken in a lot of vices just living clean now
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24-11-2013, 10:02
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Re: Illegal cigarettes
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and then charge smokers for health treatment
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What about the alcohol drinkers who use up vital NHS services like Doctors, Nurses, Paramedics and most of all the Police time?
Alcohol abuse costs much more to treat than smoking related illnesses.
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24-11-2013, 12:05
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Re: Illegal cigarettes
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and then charge smokers for health treatment
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May be we can charge those found to be smoking a bit of puff or those injecting drugs, quick blood test to confirm and out comes the charges sheet depending on the level of usage and of course where does it stop with additional charges once they are the norm.
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24-11-2013, 12:40
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Re: Illegal cigarettes
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and then charge smokers for health treatment
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and charge boxers and those practicing martial arts for health treatment .
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24-11-2013, 12:48
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Re: Illegal cigarettes
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
and charge boxers and those practicing martial arts for health treatment .
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Indeed where would it stop, we could charge those drinking depending on the amount they have drunk in the last day, People with skin problems extra if they have been on holiday in sunny climates within the last year
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24-11-2013, 13:19
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Re: Illegal cigarettes
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and charge boxers and those practicing martial arts for health treatment .
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if the law changed and I needed health insurance to keep up the sport I would be more than happy. Anyway the NHS do not treat sports injuries very well anyway as a qualified sports therapist I can treat most injuries myself anyway .
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What about the alcohol drinkers who use up vital NHS services like Doctors, Nurses, Paramedics and most of all the Police time?
Alcohol abuse costs much more to treat than smoking related illnesses.
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yeah man all for that. I think heavy and binge drinkers are idiots anyway
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May be we can charge those found to be smoking a bit of puff or those injecting drugs, quick blood test to confirm and out comes the charges sheet depending on the level of usage and of course where does it stop with additional charges once they are the norm. 
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When I smoked dope I smoked it neat I had very little perhaps 20 blasts a day maybe the equal to 1 cigarette and that's on a heavy day. Again if the law changed and I had to be responsible for things that are unhealthy I would have to bite the bullet
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I would also like to see changes in the law so the diet in this country could be better also. Our supermarket shelves are full of poison and sugar there were far less obese people in the 50's when they ate animal fat
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24-11-2013, 13:22
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Re: Illegal cigarettes
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Originally Posted by tizmeinnit
if the law changed and I needed health insurance to keep up the sport I would be more than happy. Anyway the NHS do not treat sports injuries very well anyway as a qualified sports therapist I can treat most injuries myself anyway .
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yeah man all for that. I think heavy and binge drinkers are idiots anyway
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When I smoked dope I smoked it neat I had very little perhaps 20 blasts a day maybe the equal to 1 cigarette and that's on a heavy day. Again if the law changed and I had to be responsible for things that are unhealthy I would have to bite the bullet
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I would also like to see changes in the law so the diet in this country could be better also. Our supermarket shelves are full of poison and sugar there were far less obese people in the 50's when they ate animal fat
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That,s why i have lost nearly 3 stone over the last 6 months and have already changed my diet.
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24-11-2013, 13:23
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Re: Illegal cigarettes
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That,s why i have lost nearly 3 stone at the moment and have already changed my diet.
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well done dude. I nearly killed myself with poor diet and no exercise I guess I am lucky to have a wonderful daughter who stopped me in my tracks
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