General STM always enforced? - Page 19

neilt0 · 26-10-2013, 12:23

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Originally Posted by broadbandking

I have seen a config alittle while ago with 60/6 so I am guessing it has started.

Yes, I was downloading last night from 9pm for about 3 hours at full whack. I'm doing the same again this morning, post-midday!

kwikbreaks · 26-10-2013, 13:31

The 60/6 config refers to the delay providing an upstream at 10% of downstream - nothing to do with STM.

craigj2k12 · 27-10-2013, 16:37

I saw a 60/6 config posted on the VM forum a couple of months back, nothing since though

Kushan · 27-10-2013, 18:15

Wasn't it "in trialling" or something?

Mick Fisher · 27-10-2013, 18:18

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Originally Posted by broadbandking

Well lets just hope this means VM will remove STM but I am not going to get to happy as VM will do something else to ruin this like introduce usage caps lol.

Well that seems to be the trend among Cable Co's in the States so it would not be very surprising.

kwikbreaks · 27-10-2013, 19:55

I think that by reducing STM to the pretty pointless 10% / 16% to satisfy the latest (as yet unpublished) ASA ruling so that they can continue advertising unlimited VM must have pretty much ruled out caps.

There is very little point in having 120Mbps download speed other than to download large data files. Put caps on it and VM may as well shut shop unless they are very generous indeed.

jb66 · 27-10-2013, 20:03

I think the removal of isohunt has helped

neilt0 · 27-10-2013, 20:06

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Originally Posted by jb66

I think the removal of isohunt has helped

Helped what?

General Maximus · 27-10-2013, 20:11

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Originally Posted by jb66

I think the removal of isohunt has helped

removed from what? I can still get to it.

Kushan · 27-10-2013, 20:12

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Originally Posted by General Maximus

removed from what? I can still get to it.

How? It shut down a few days ago.

General Maximus · 27-10-2013, 20:24

I personally don't use the site but I just went on it to see what jb was talking about. I'll pm you and you can try it for yourself otherwise I risk getting my bottom smacked by the mods.

Sephiroth · 27-10-2013, 20:42

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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks

I think that by reducing STM to the pretty pointless 10% / 16% to satisfy the latest (as yet unpublished) ASA ruling so that they can continue advertising unlimited VM must have pretty much ruled out caps.

There is very little point in having 120Mbps download speed other than to download large data files. Put caps on it and VM may as well shut shop unless they are very generous indeed.

You're right, of course.

The problem for VM customers is that a free-for-all (except P2P which remains controlled), as in "VM will never slow you down", can hit them quite quickly, particularly if there are twice as many customers per VM optical node than in a large FTTC cabinet.

Of course FTTC can hit customers in a different way; it's distance dependent from the cabinet made worse by aluminium cable.

Interesting times ahead as VM struggles with its dilemma.

Jumping · 27-10-2013, 21:00

Removal of one site is not really gonna matter there is always more than one way to find and get the stuff you want if you really want it.

kwikbreaks · 27-10-2013, 22:16

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Of course FTTC can hit customers in a different way; it's distance dependent from the cabinet made worse by aluminium cable.

In the sort of areas where VM are competing with FTTC I suspect that the distance from subscriber to cab isn't going to be all that great. For instance I'm ~ 300m from my FTTC cabinet and have a 60Mbps estimate. I'm actually nearer than that to the next cabinet along though. I have seen mention of someone being about a mile (iirc) from their cab but I'd lay odds that there is no cable service there.

27-10-2013, 22:16

ive reported 3 to FACT via crimestoppers in the past week. Sory but I hate P2P and copyright theft in general.