General : Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.

[jagsman]

Originally Posted by theone2k10

They've not done too badly so far http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...internet-video

1.5m subscribers is not too bad, but if you look a little closer, you would see that they reached 1m after the first 6 months, and only gained 500,000 over the following year.

I posted this a few weeks ago;

Originally Posted by jagsman

I just think it would make good business sense for Netflix to make a deal with Virgin.

For example, if Virgin offer to pay them around £1 a month for every XL subscription, that would get Netflix a guaranteed income of around £2M a month. To get that same amount without a deal for XL, they would have to get over 15% of Virgin's XL subscribers to sign up. Considering the fact that only 500,000 people across the whole of the UK have subscribed to their service over the past year, then expecting to get another 333,000, from a much smaller catchment area, seems far fetched. So 2 million new customers, albeit paying less than the normal price, is a very tempting offer, especially when you see that their current total number of subscribers in the UK is only 1.5 million. It would also get them in 1st, before Lovefilm, that's got to count for something as well. Virgin could even offer to restrict their service to their set-top boxes only, as part of any deal.

Although I could be totally wrong in thinking that LG would be willing to do a deal with Netflix regarding the XL package. But it would be a massive coup if they did, especially when you consider the fact that they seem to be buying up all the channels that they are missing at the moment, so also adding Netflix would give them the edge over all their competitors.

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by ocav

Personally, aslong as they keep pumping out the great new content that isn't elsewhere like House of Cards, Breaking Bad, OITNB, Hemlock Grove etc, as well as nabbing some premieres like The Hobbit and Hunger Games, I'll probably be paying the monthly sub.

However I do agree with Old Boy, there isn't anything in XL for non-sports fans except HD. Netflix would of been a good alternative and would of been a great way to replace non-PPV or Catch Up On Demand services.

I agree with this there isn't much in XL for none sports fans. As someone just mentioned getting Netflix in the XL would give LG one up on their rivals.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by theone2k10

I agree with this there isn't much in XL for none sports fans. As someone just mentioned getting Netflix in the XL would give LG one up on their rivals.

all the HD channels apart from sky premium

[paultrademark]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I don't want to access content from a plethora of devices

I am the opposite, I want it on as many devices as possible so am not restricted to viewing it in front of one TV.

In another room I have a PS3 set up, I could use that.

We also have a Smart TV upstairs, I could use that.

Along with another TiVo in another room, I could use that too.

And then there is the mobile devices such as my tablet or laptop.


I believe you can have up to 6 registered devices per account, which is great and certainly alot more realistic than VM's TV Anywhere service where you can only have 2 devices per household.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by paultrademark

I am the opposite, I want it on as many devices as possible so am not restricted to viewing it in front of one TV.

In another room I have a PS3 set up, I could use that.

We also have a Smart TV upstairs, I could use that.

Along with another TiVo in another room, I could use that too.

And then there is the mobile devices such as my tablet or laptop.


I believe you can have up to 6 registered devices per account, which is great and certainly alot more realistic than VM's TV Anywhere service where you can only have 2 devices per household.

I'm exactly the same , in my eyes this is were the traditional pay TV providers like Sky , VM and BT are failing , the families of today want access to their content on all their devices were ever they are not just those the pay tv firms deem most important.

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by johnholmes

Technix posted on Digital Spy that Premier Sports should launch soon on Virgin Media, and provided a channel number, which I can't remember!

And was remove.

[johnathome]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

And was remove.

Didn't that just get caught up with thread culling because it descended into an argument.

I don't think it was for any nefarious reason.

[Media Boy UK]

Originally Posted by johnathome

Didn't that just get caught up with thread culling because it descended into an argument.

I don't think it was for any nefarious reason.

Story now up on my Blog.

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by johnathome

Didn't that just get caught up with thread culling because it descended into an argument.

I don't think it was for any nefarious reason.

Yeah i put the main culprit on ignore over on ds lol but a lot of posts did get removed in the mix including technix and 1and1andrews post.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by theone2k10

I agree with this there isn't much in XL for none sports fans. As someone just mentioned getting Netflix in the XL would give LG one up on their rivals.

I'm not sure if I agree.

If you are a music fan you get 4 music channels exclusive to the XL package along with 5000 music videos free on demand. Not to mention 3 months worth of free Spotify when you join Virgin.

If you are a fan of on demand and catch up content you have access to and incredible 3200 hours worth of TV at the touch of a button.

Fans of documentaries and factual content are looked after pretty well with 15 channels exclusive to XL including History, National Geographic, National Geographic Wild and Crime & Investigation. Granted some channels are +1 and in HD.

Those with little ones are getting great value from XL with 10 kids channels exclusive to the XL package. The Disney collection of channels are very popular.

The lack of entertainment for non sports fans with XL is a myth, in my humble opinion.

[Media Boy UK]

Premier Sports Rumour:

An Rumour poster has told me tonight Premier Sports have been in talks again with Virgin Media but it looks like Premier Sports will be coming as a standalone channel. No confirmed launch date.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Chad

I'm not sure if I agree.

If you are a music fan you get 4 music channels exclusive to the XL package along with 5000 music videos free on demand. Not to mention 3 months worth of free Spotify when you join Virgin.

If you are a fan of on demand and catch up content you have access to and incredible 3200 hours worth of TV at the touch of a button.

Fans of documentaries and factual content are looked after pretty well with 15 channels exclusive to XL including History, National Geographic, National Geographic Wild and Crime & Investigation. Granted some channels are +1 and in HD.

Those with little ones are getting great value from XL with 10 kids channels exclusive to the XL package. The Disney collection of channels are very popular.

The lack of entertainment for non sports fans with XL is a myth, in my humble opinion.

I have never watched the included sports channels, but always thought the XL package worth it irrispective of that.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I don't want to access content from a plethora of devices. So having all this on the TIVO is perfect for me and for many others, i suspect.

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You should try to talk them into adding a DVD/Blueray player into the next version of Tivo!

[ocav]

Originally Posted by Dave42

all the HD channels apart from sky premium

Which are available elsewhere for the same price (from Sky), BT Sport free in XL draws in sports enthusiasts, there is nothing majorly appealing about the XL pack for none-sports over other competitors.

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by Chad

I'm not sure if I agree.

If you are a music fan you get 4 music channels exclusive to the XL package along with 5000 music videos free on demand. Not to mention 3 months worth of free Spotify when you join Virgin.

If you are a fan of on demand and catch up content you have access to and incredible 3200 hours worth of TV at the touch of a button.

Fans of documentaries and factual content are looked after pretty well with 15 channels exclusive to XL including History, National Geographic, National Geographic Wild and Crime & Investigation. Granted some channels are +1 and in HD.

Those with little ones are getting great value from XL with 10 kids channels exclusive to the XL package. The Disney collection of channels are very popular.

The lack of entertainment for non sports fans with XL is a myth, in my humble opinion.

BIB may be joining M+ will keep you updated on that.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by passingbat

I have never watched the included sports channels, but always thought the XL package worth it irrispective of that.

I've always thought the XL package is pretty good value. It really has something for everyone.

I've just noticed that it's the music fans, not sports fans, who get the best value from XL.

M+ and L customers have to pay 29p per video. If someone joining Virgin on the XL package loves music, and watches all 5000 videos during their 18 month deal, they are getting the equivalent of £1450 worth of content for free included in their package That's a whopping £80.55 worth of free music every month when compared to M+ and L.

Actually just noticed that a 10 video playlist is £1.75 so that works out at £875.00 rather than £1450.00.

It makes the value of BT Sports and ESPN look insignificant

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Originally Posted by ocav

Which are available elsewhere for the same price (from Sky), BT Sport free in XL draws in sports enthusiasts, there is nothing majorly appealing about the XL pack for none-sports over other competitors.

See my above post about music channels and music on demand via Virgin Media. Nobody does music like Virgin Media.

I'd also add that Virgins TV Anywhere, through an XL package, offers more live TV on the go than anyone else in the UK. That's a pretty big selling point too.

One other thing I missed since joining SKY is not being able to watch catch up TV or on demand on my SKY HD box in my bedroom. Not a problem on the XL package as your second box still allows you to watch all of the on demand content.

I agree that if you ignore the HD channels, BT Sports, music on demand, Virgin TV anywhere and a cheap multiroom experience then the XL package has nothing to offer ahead of what competitors offer.