Questions about gaming lag, virgin & infinity... - Page 7

27-09-2013, 23:49

i'm sure it will be on tomorrow in our area. Just our luck!

Been nice though - a glimpse of the future

qasdfdsaq · 28-09-2013, 12:31

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...-enforced.html

28-09-2013, 14:05

cheers

I notice my speed flux now but before they were solid. But i still get around the 115/120 mark so if that's fine

Edit nah it's on again it must have just been broke yesterday or it's not on but it's so busy i can only get 80. who knows. guess testing it on Monday will see.

AmAtoL · 30-09-2013, 22:45

Sorry, I'm a bit late to this thread and haven't read all the posts.

My 2 penneth, I have had Infinity for 18 months and there is only myself who uses it, I don't even have a phone on the line

The first couple of days after it was installed it was fantastic (on Battlefield bad company 2 for PC) shortly after it seemed to never be as good, no idea why.

In that time the speeds have been good, pings generally good, as in 30ms to German servers (BF3) but my overall "feeling" is one of it's not quite doing what it says on the tin.
64 player servers seem to lag quite often.
My contract is up now so I (read the wife) can't justify a second line for my gaming, I don't feel as though I am leaving behind the nirvana of gaming connections and I am going to fall back on our VM conenction.
My 2 sons never complain about lag, to me anyway, on VM so that suits me.

Sephiroth · 30-09-2013, 23:06

My son's experience too. The VM connection games better (COD) than the BT Infinity connection.

AmAtoL · 01-10-2013, 00:28

Yeah, I've just been on BF3 since that last post of mine, a full 64 player server and I can't recommend it wholeheartedly at all (Infinity) that's why I don't mind getting shut of it.

I had some horrendous games on Black Ops2 but that was to do with their "dedicated" servers I think.

I'm going to look into getting a second VM internet line put in for me

I know that didn't used to be possible but I believe that's changed, correct me if I'm wrong, that's what my wife heard at work anyway (VM).

Chrysalis · 01-10-2013, 01:19

bear in mind these games do a speedtest when connecting and the one with the best connection (upload speed) hosts the game (probably very likely on infinity) and artificial lag is then added to supposedbly add fairness.

In terms of connection quality I find infinity in a different league to VM, the only thing VM can win on with my own comparison is base latency, but that doesnt mean jack with the jitter I had. So for you to say infinity was terrible (not just worse) would suggest something else is at play such as the virtual lag.

craigj2k12 · 01-10-2013, 01:24

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

bear in mind these games do a speedtest when connecting and the one with the best connection (upload speed) hosts the game (probably very likely on infinity) and artificial lag is then added to supposedbly add fairness.

Not played the recent ones, but on the older call of duty games, MW2 etc, it actually measured downstream for some reason

Kushan · 01-10-2013, 11:04

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

bear in mind these games do a speedtest when connecting and the one with the best connection (upload speed) hosts the game (probably very likely on infinity) and artificial lag is then added to supposedbly add fairness.

The BF games are generally hosted on Dedicated servers. Certainly the 64 player games are.

I've not played it since just after launch, but I never had any lag issues on 64 player BF3 servers (Beyond FPS lag, that is). This would probably have been on 50meg as well. I've not used infinity to compare though.

I don't think it's as clear cut as infinity being good/bad and Virgin being better/worse, I think a lot of it depends on your area - in both cases.

Chrysalis · 01-10-2013, 21:29

ok but infinity generally doesnt have area problems like VM has, it doesnt have random areas which stay oversubscribed for months on end.

If AmAtoL is generally interested in whats going on then he can get the game server ip, do a mtr/trace from both of his connections and compare.

Kushan · 01-10-2013, 22:02

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

ok but infinity generally doesnt have area problems like VM has, it doesnt have random areas which stay oversubscribed for months on end.

If AmAtoL is generally interested in whats going on then he can get the game server ip, do a mtr/trace from both of his connections and compare.

Sure, but as I said it really is a bit of a postcode lottery. The catch is that there's really no way to know without trying. Even though Virgin is poor more often than Infinity, for someone who hasn't tried either, that's not particularly helpful information.

Chrysalis · 01-10-2013, 22:17

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Originally Posted by Kushan

Sure, but as I said it really is a bit of a postcode lottery. The catch is that there's really no way to know without trying. Even though Virgin is poor more often than Infinity, for someone who hasn't tried either, that's not particularly helpful information.

The postcode lottery with infinity is line quality/length aka sync speed/stability. At least tho the surprise element is reduced with estimated speeds.

I am more interested in seph's linestats tho, hoping he hooks his new modem up soon.

Sephiroth · 01-10-2013, 22:30

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I am more interested in seph's linestats tho, hoping he hooks his new modem up soon.

Thanks Chrys. Earliest I get home is Thursday but likely I'll do the biz Saturday morning. TBB is running though. This what I want to change so that the added latency is removed.

AmAtoL · 02-10-2013, 20:28

Thanks guys, while Infinity is not "terrible" I personally can't justify it anymore for gaming, it just isn't that much (£40) better than VM.
As for actual stats I can get 38 down and 8 up all day long, which to the normal user
is brilliant :0 no issue with that at all.
I play FPS games online every night and have done so for the last 14 years, I have tried Infinity and now I can let it go with no regrets, that is all really.
Gaming depends on so many variables and each one relies on the other to give a good experience at this end, sometimes good, sometimes bad, but my PC doesn't change every night.
It just turns out that the comparison between the two for me is that they are pretty equal and not a night and day difference.

qasdfdsaq · 03-10-2013, 00:41

Was cheaper than VM here. Certainly can't see Infinity being £40 more if that's what you're implying, the highest priced Infinity package can be had for £37.75 all in.